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BMW's Hydrogen Hopes

Hydrogen may never be feasible as a fuel for vehicles, but BMW is pushing ahead anyway with an advanced hydrogen-gas combustion hybrid.

By David Talbot

Friday, September 22, 2006

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For several years, BMW has been building custom prototypes of luxury cars that can switch between hydrogen and gasoline in an internal-combustion engine. Now, the automaker is touting a version that has gone through rigorous product-development steps, so that it could theoretically be mass-manufactured--although BMW will make only 100 of them and give them away to a privileged group of as-yet-unnamed celebrities and politicians.

The internal combustion engine in BMW’s new hydrogen-gasoline hybrid engine can switch seamlessly between the two fuels. And control systems optimize the concentrations of hydrogen being burned, which can minimize or eliminate one of the downsides of hydrogen combustion: the formation of nitrogen oxides. While BMW hopes its new model will help drive the adoption of hydrogen in vehicles, experts are skeptical. (Credit: BMW)

Many observers feel hydrogen as a transportation energy source is a far-out proposition. With this move, BMW has at least made a strong case that it will be more practical to burn hydrogen in a traditional internal combustion engine than to pass it through fuel cells to produce electricity to drive electric motors.

The question now is whether BMW's project really pushes hydrogen cars any closer to adoption, or just represents a refinement of the necessary engineering details.

"They have come down on the side of "OK, if we are going to use hydrogen, using it in an internal combustion engine specially designed for that purpose is the better technology path," rather than trying to bring brand-new technology to market, says John Heywood, director of the Sloan Automotive Laboratory at MIT. "I think it's a technical judgment they are making, and maybe it's got a mid-term, as opposed to a long-term, timescale. They are a high-performance-engine, fun-to-drive-car company. That is their culture, so this fits in with that culture."

The hydrogen/gasoline prototype is based on BMW's 7 series sedans, many of which retail for more than $100,000. (No price has been set on the new hybrid, since the car will not be sold.) The vehicle has a super-insulated tank that stores liquid hydrogen at minus-480 degrees F, and a special fuel-injection system that can switch between gasoline and hydrogen. The engine can pack a 260-horsepower wallop while burning hydrogen--something that an electric car powered by a hydrogen fuel cell cannot now do in such a large car, BMW says.

Thomas Korn, senior project engineer for BMW's hydrogen program in Oxnard, CA, says the new car boasts not only high performance, but also low emissions. Hydrogen combustion leads to the formation of nitrogen oxides, but BMW's new car has sophisticated control systems that optimize the concentrations of hydrogen being burned and the engine timing, to minimize or eliminate the formation of nitrogen oxides.

Should a demand ever emerge for such cars, BMW could theoretically mass-produce them, Korn says. Unlike an earlier batch of 12 hydrogen-powered prototypes made by BMW, the new car has gone through brutal longevity tests, and uses parts that can be mass-manufactured by suppliers, rather than one-off, custom-crafted components.

"It went through production process, so we have the technology to industrialize it," says Korn. "On the other hand, the situation out there is not such that we can sell the car, because the potential customer hardly will find a place to fill up the car."

Comments

  • Hydrogen dream is vain
    This silly.  Hydrogen won't be feasable for another twenty years.

    GM and other manufacturers created an electric car that was powerful, fast, and had the potential to go 80-300 miles on a single overnight charge.  They killed it...or should we say "big oil" killed it.

    <groan!>

    We could reduce the world's "carbon profile" dramatically within a year if we tooled up for it like we did in WWII.  We'd simply say, "Hey, its a war on CO2...this is what's going to happen...deal with it."    We'd adjust to electric cars pretty quickly.
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    Hardheadjarh...
    09/22/2006
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    • Re: Hydrogen dream is vain
      It was lack of customer demand that killed the auto industry’s expensive attempt to start a market for electric cars. It was “oil too cheap”,not "big oil", that kept customers uninterested in electric cars. Blaming conspiracies that do not exist will not advance progress towards alternatives that reduce US dependency on foreign oil. Tom
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      tomklein
      09/22/2006
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      • Re: Hydrogen dream is vain
        I agree.  Big oil did not shut down the electric car.  Oil has sold between $20 and $72 a barrel during the last 5 years.  Alternative energy projects make make money at the high price,
        will not repay their investment at the low price. 

        A capital intensive alternative energy project will only be built if expected average prices are high enough.  This is the market talking, not a whispered conspiracy.
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        lambdafunds
        09/22/2006
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    • Re: Hydrogen dream is vain
      Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. It only makes sense to try to harness it. If we continue to step back and firmly root ourselves against R&D and say "That's silly" then 20 years from now we'll still be obliged to pay the price (both environmentaly and monotarily) Sure, hydrogen does not need to be the only avenue explored but we don't need to turn a deaf ear to it either.
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      ny_rebel
      09/23/2006
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      • Re: Hydrogen dream is vain
        Just because it's abundant doesn't mean it's a good choice for using as a mobile fuel.  It's very energy intensive to separate free hydrogen from the various molecules to which it belongs.
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        MITBeta
        09/25/2006
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        • Re: Hydrogen dream is vain
          If you want to get water as and end-product of your power generating reaction, you have no choice but to burn hydrogen as your fuel.

          And the energy equation is more or less symmetrical: it may require a lot of energy to produce hydrogen, but once you made it, it carries that energy in it.

          Hydrogen is a good choice - the big question is how do we get a clean energy source to produce enough cheap hydrogen? We should consider further developing clean nuclear reactors.
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          gabrielg01
          09/26/2006
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          • Re: Hydrogen dream is vain
            "And the energy equation is more or less symmetrical: it may require a lot of energy to produce hydrogen, but once you made it, it carries that energy in it."

               Are you forgetting the laws of pysics. there is going to be major energey loss when you use electricity to make H2. Then when you make it back into electricty via FC, or even kenitic energy via ICE.

               Also it must be noted that hydrogen (the smallest adom you can get) leaks readly from pretty much any container when in gas form. and takes large ammounts of energy to keep it chilled and in liquid form. Placing H2 in a solid state by binding it with other compounds reduces its energy output and adds to the energy required to process it. Therefore unless we find a better way to store H2 its all just a pipe dream.
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            jimbob
            10/10/2006
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        • Re: Hydrogen dream is vain
          MITbeta...Does that mean we should abandon all efforts to find an economical way to harvest hydrogen. If we follow that way of thinking then we should cease all R&D on all energy alternatives, return to the day of horses and candles.... energy problems solved.... But since this notion is just as silly...I think I've made my point.  I don't think we should concentrate exclusively on hydrogen but it should remain an option for as long as an alternative energy source is needed.
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          ny_rebel
          09/26/2006
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  • Nuclear future
    David Talbot skips nuclear energy as a choice. How come?

    We will hit the point where fossil fuels and renewables will not be able to provide all the energy we need. Fossil fuels also pose the CO2 problem.

    Nuclear energy gives us a clean and sustainable energy option, in spite of the hysteria surrounding it.

    With nuclear power plants we can make all the hydrogen fuel we want.
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    gabrielg01
    09/22/2006
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    • Re: Nuclear future
      Considering the amount of fossil fuels required to obtain energy grade nuclear fuel and where it ends up when after being used i wouldn´t call it clean.
      Oh and nuclear power is NOT sustainable (you might want to look up the meaning of sustainability)
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      folicular
      09/22/2006
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      • Re: Nuclear future
        Breeder reactors make three times the fuel they burn. 

        Reactors that generate very low quantities of high level waste can be built.  They are not because of the proliferation risk.
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        justinm1
        09/22/2006
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    • Re: Nuclear future
      Nuclear hysteria?

      Read this, from IAEA, not suspect of hysteria I think...

      http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Booklets/Chernobyl/chernobyl.pdf

      Regards
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      jlvillalobos
      09/23/2006
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      • Re: Nuclear future
        How does this booklet relate to the price of tea in China?  That's right, it doesn't.  And neither does it relate to Western nuclear power plants.
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        MITBeta
        09/25/2006
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  • Alternative?
    The problem with most alternative fuels is the energy used to manufacutre them, like hydrogen or ethanol. But there is a source of wasted energy that might be used - the waste heat from the ICE itself. Is anyone looking at using the heat in ICE exhaust, for example, to do the processing on the vehicle itself?
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    JH
    09/22/2006
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    • Re: Alternative? Engery Cycle
      The problem with re-using heat exhaust is that first, you cannot block the fast movement of exhaust without seriously harming engine efficiency--whether some converter, or a big potato, if the exhaust pipe is clogged the car does not run. So even if your waste energy re-capturing system is no heavier than a take-out lunch, you cannot significantly slow the outlet of waste heat without using up more energy that you recapture.
        As for nukes, most people do not realize just how common Uranium really is--and Uranium is not the only natural fission fuel. Uranium is common enough that low grade deposits are ignored now, and as mentioned, breeder reactors, and newer waste-burning reactors are very efficient and clean. More Uranium is put into the air by burning coal--which contains trace amounts) than leaks from reactors. We just need to build good reactors.
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      kitk
      09/22/2006
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      • Re: Alternative? Engery Cycle
        This is the can-do attitude that mankind needs to harvest the future.  Spiro Agnew's,"Nattering nabobs of negativism" seem to find failure by looking for it.  If others can't see failure as the negativists do, they invent it.  This is the "progressive" wing of the species.
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        monte_meade
        09/24/2006
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        • Re: Alternative? Engery Cycle
          Right!  Here's a way to make H2 from exhaust.  Turbocharge but without using impeller drag and couple to electrical generator to electrolyze water making hydrogen and oxygen to feed directly into engine.  O2 sensor backs off the amount of petrol used.  Very efficient.
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          H24meNu
          10/04/2006
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  • It IS possible
    Any closed minded inventor knows that there are a million closed minded wet blankets who will say "it can't be done"

    Why don't you go visit the Edison museum and find out HOW many times he FAILED before the light bulb was created...

    Rocket Science!
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    rocketscienc...
    09/23/2006
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  • Hydrogen from nuclear power
    High temperature gas reactors can produce hydrogen. Check out Kloosterman's diagram of the sulfur-iodine process in the appendix to
    users.adelphia.net/~bobhargraves/solvingtheusenergycrisis.ppt.
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    bobhargraves
    09/27/2006
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  • Alcoholic Hydrogen
    Hydrogen from alcohol, water & catalyst is now available.  Fermentation of cellulose to make alcohol is now available. Alcohol fuel cells are also now available enabling the CO2 byproduct to be captured.
    Looks like cars can run on alcohol by fuel cells or internal combustion.  Such engines could run solely on hydrogen (with or without CO2) or alcohol or both.
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    H24meNu
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  • Solar H2 in a tank?
    Yes, this is possible.  Cheap (Nano)solar photovoltaicells make electricity- Which goes through reverse PEM (proton exchange membrane)- Which makes H2 & O2 from water- Which can be pressurized in tanks by the process to kpsi's.  Plus there's free O2- Which makes the hellacious H2 & O2 combustion. 
    BMW has to inject liquid H2, utilising air for combustion.  Tanks are available, or nearly so, to store 11,400 psi H2 which is the same amount of H2 as liquid.  Got the picture?
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    H24meNu
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  • A  MOST Efficient Engine
    We're talking ICE piston type engines, here.  Two stroke!  Infrared reflection to keep max pressures up.  Direct Oxygen (O2) and direct Hydrogen (H2) injection.  NO compression stroke!!! Just Combustion,Exhaust,Combustio, Exhaus,Combusti,Exhau,Combust,Exha,Combus,ExhComb, Exh,Com,Ex,Co, Ex,Co,Ex,Co,E,C,EC,ETC,ec,ec,ecececec,etc. (plus a few other mechanical secrets!)  Solar - to - Power! Run off the sun-fast!  I'm waiting to make the prototype...
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    H24meNu
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  • Hydrogen production
    Our electric companies should run their current through water to separate the hydrogen from oxygen atoms.  There is little current reduction from the process; the electricity can be sent through water breaking the atomic bonds, and then back on to the electric grid. Any reduction in the electric current would be compensated by the sale of the marketable hydrogen and oxygen.
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    H2O/H/OO
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