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Superconductors to Wire a Smarter Grid

Continued from page 1

By Kevin Bullis

Thursday, November 12, 2009

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Power shifting: Power comes into the Tres Amigas station from three power grids and circulates inside a superconductor pipeline that all three grids can draw from.
Credit: Tres Amigas

To connect all three grids required a place where they were geographically close together--in the case of Tres Amigas, a 60-square-kilometer swath of land near Clovis, NM. As with conventional connections between the grids, the system converts AC to DC. But unlike conventional two-way connections, at Tres Amigas that DC power will then circulate in superconducting cables that form a triangular electrical pipeline. Any of the three grids can draw power from this, as needed.

Providing five gigawatts, and eventually 30 gigawatts, of transfer capacity between all three grids required the use of superconducting DC lines, which greatly reduced the number of cables needed to carry the power--a single superconducting cable can carry the same power as nine or 10 sets of conventional copper cables. If the conventional cables were suspended overhead, they, along with the incoming and outgoing transmission lines, would have created a "rat's nest" vulnerable to weather and sabotage, says Jack McCall, a director of business development at Devens, MA-based American Superconductor, which is supplying the superconducting cables.

Burying conventional cables would add to the complexity and size of the project, since the cables would need to be kept several meters apart to avoid overheating. At first, only one superconducting cable would be needed--greatly simplifying the system compared to using conventional cables. As Tres Amigas is expanded, more cables will be needed, but these can be buried close to each other.

In addition to connecting the three grids Tres Amigas will serve as a demonstration of the type of DC superconducting lines and AC-to-DC converters that would be needed for high-power, long distance transmission lines--the superconductor "pipeline" EPRI has studied. Such a system could be easier to site than conventional overhead high-power transmission lines: the superconducting cables can be buried along existing rights of way, such as along interstate highways. Convincing land owners to allow large overhead transmission towers is one of the biggest obstacles to installing conventional transmission lines, and it could stymie efforts to develop a system for distributing wind power from the Midwest. Superconducting transmission lines could also be easier to integrate with the existing grid, since the amount of power converted from DC to AC power at stations along the line could be precisely controlled.

According to the EPRI analysis, a superconductor pipeline would cost about as much as a conventional transmission line, if the superconductor system were designed to transmit high amounts of power (greater than five gigawatts) over long distances (around 1,000 miles). This is in part because the cost for refrigerating superconducting lines (required to maintain their superconducting properties) becomes a small share of the total system costs. Also, at long distances, the higher efficiency of superconducting systems is important--about half as much energy is wasted as with conventional high-power, long-distance power lines.

But it is a technology that companies aren't familiar with, and so they may be reluctant to roll it out at the scale required for it to be cost-competitive, Eckroad says. The Tres Amigas project could be important to demonstrating that the technology works, he says.

McCall says that Tres Amigas plans to file with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission in the coming weeks--clearing that regulatory hurdle is the next step for the company. If that goes well, the initial five-gigawatt system could be completed by the end of 2014.

Comments

  • Issues
    Don't superconducting materials require some rare earth metals?  And doesn't China now have a virtual monopoly on rare earth metals because environmentalists have blocked the type mining in the US needed to extract rare earth metals? 

    And wouldn't a single connection point be a very attractive terrorist target?
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    RD
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    • Re: Issues
      Rd, smile when you say environmentalist, I'm an environmentalist who wants to protect my environment as well as yours, I do travel you know.  People throw around the word environmentalist like they  to used the word Liberal.  I believe that's a corporates smear tactic.  Funny how the so called environmentalists couldn't stop mountain top removal mining which is going on as we speak.
      Yes I'm an environmentalist, And you are?
      Sam
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      ssamd
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    • Re: Issues
      If they are going like other American Superconductor (a company) projects it will be something like BSCCO-2223 which is made of bismuth, strontium, calcium, copper oxide, and a tiny bit of lead. None of which are "rare earth" elements. I know there are superconductors which do use all sorts of rare elements but power lines require a special mix of properties to stay superconducting at the desired power levels used in these lines. So even though there may be higher temperature conductors in the lab I am betting the one I listed is the one being used.

      As to the terrorism and grid security angle. These lines will likely be undergound and sufficently buffered and as it is expanded more and more redundancy will be added. Remember there is no special spot where all these regional grids come together so what you see as one facility is actualy three or more facilities linked by underground superconductor lines to form a power distribution and load balancing network.

      As to the other commentor on AC-DC-AC conversion. This is regularly done all over the world. High voltage DC transmission lines superconducting or not are more efficient in many applications. (long transmission lines, underground, or underwater, etc.) These efficiencies more than make up for the conversion losses and allow you to link grids which are not in phase.
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      Gurthang
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      • Re: Issues
        It's strange how often terrorism is mentioned for electric lines. Gas and oil pipelines carry far more energy, sometimes an order of magnitude more, than high voltage transmission cables. Moving from oil and gas to electricity will bring more resilience from terrorist attack. 30 GW is a lot, but the peak load in the total US is around 800 GW, average around 500 GW. Redundancies can and should be built in into any electric system because it often happens that large modes fail due to unscheduled maintenance (a storm or a fire or just poor maintenance etc). From a electric reliability viewpoint, one could treat large terrorist attacks as major unscheduled outages. There are also large up and downs in electric demand that have to be accomodated anyway during a day. We're talking about hundreds of GigaWatts change in national total load (and thus also transmission variability) during night-day cycles!

        Anyways, there's not that many terrorist that can really do serious damage. Look at the numbers: how many people died through acts of terrorism in the last decade in the US? Compare that to coal mining and traffic deaths in the US, or deaths in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. And what about smoking?

        As sad as terrorism deaths are, it really is a minor issue from a national security of energy supply and infrastructure viewpoint.
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        Siphon
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  • Single point of failure
    Why design a continent wide single point of failure in to the system? as some one already said its a terrorist target waiting to happen.
    Secondly what is the conversion efficiency of this super station going to be for converting AC/DC/AC
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    Viv
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    • Re: Not a single point of failure
      Tres Amigas would not be a "single point of failure." Each grid is independent, but this allows them to share electricity to their mutual benefit. It is adding an extra layer of redundancy in case one of the grids experiences an upset.
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      colinnwn
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  • super conduct the grid
    As a handyman by trade I'm not sure I understand how this system makes sense.  If I had to solve the problem of linking the different systems together I would put a satellite in orbit that would send a signal down that everyone could sync to.  To invert dc to ac then back to dc then back to ac seems inefficient.
    Handyman Sam
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    ssamd
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    • Re: completely impractical
      This isn't just "syncing" a signal. It is taking a massive amount of power at a specific phase, and transferring it to another grid operating at a different phase.

      It is theoretically possible to do this by satellite, but it is completely unproven. Launching satellites is hideously expensive, and transferring power through the atmosphere is very lossy; it would make AC-DC-AC conversion seem incredibly efficient by comparison. The cost of such a system would be tens of billions of dollars, rather than less than 100 million for Tres Amigas.
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      colinnwn
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  • Tres Amigas substation
    I perform transmission studies in ERCOT, WECC, and SPP and I can say that the announcement of the Tres Amigas substation is and was a complete surprise to everyone.  The substation has no transmission lines going to it.  There is no joint plan supporting such a substation or the lines that will be needed.  Before we spend big bucks for this project there should at least be economic and electrical planning studies the three regions can review and comment on.
    Dr Eugene Preston
    http://egpreston.com
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    Gene_Preston
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  • [no subject]
    Quote:"This isn't just "syncing" a signal. It is taking a massive amount of power at a specific phase, and transferring it to another grid operating at a different phase."

    Handyman Sam wasn't talking about beaming any power through the atmosphere. He was talking about sending a phase synchronization signal that generators on the different grids could use to keep all the grids in phase, at least at the interconnect points.

    I think that idea sounds completely feasible.
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    coloradoengi...
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    • Phase signal already exists
      they are called atomic clocks
      and signal is broadcast.

      you can buy an atomic clock for $20 that picks up radio signals and syncs to them.

      The GPS satellite would complement this as they also transmit precision time signals that the receivers interpret to obtain position.

      Obviously
      1) the problem is more complex than just keeping the systems in phase,
      2) or the costs of keeping them in phase outweigh the benefits
      3) or lastly possibly is easy but hasn't been done since no need yet as grids not interconnected yet.
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      erbium
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  • Why bother with a 5 mile superconductor?
    I don't understand this except as a sci-fi proof of concept. Instead of building expensive 5 mile superconductors, just extend the existing 3 grids by 5 miles with the same transmission line, and move the AC-DC converters together. If the HVDC lines went 1000 miles it would be something different, but the whole point here is just three AC-DC converters at almost the same place to transfer unsynchronized AC power. Why not just make it at the same place instead of 5 miles apart? Presumably only as a test for the cables. The PR on this project seems to pitch something different.
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    carlhage
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  • Pretty Good Idea
    This is actually a really cool idea that will lead to an increase in the overall robustness of the national grid.

    Aside from the out of phase issue, which would probably be solved most efficiently by a timing signal, the big benefit of using DC to transfer power through a superconductor is reactance. When you have an AC signal traveling through two conductors near each other you will get losses due to the mutual inductance, and capacitance between the lines. It is significantly less than the loss due to material resistance, but it is still a loss in a perfectly conducting line. Using DC you won't get that loss due to reactance.

    As for making renewables more attractive, wind maybe a bit more, although you still will never be able to have more than about 10%-15% of your power supplied by it due to the fact that even distributed, there is still the possibility that > 50% of that power production could stop at a given time. With solar, the inefficiencies, even with 20% efficient solar panels, would still prevent it from being effective. The solar constant, which is defined as a the power incident normal to a planar disc the size of the earth from all solar radiation is about 1366 W/m^2. After factoring in atmospheric effects, and taking the component normal to the earths surface, and averaging the normal component over 12 hours, the US receives about 350 W/m^2 under clear conditions. The average US household uses about 1300W, you would have to produce at least twice this to provide power throughout the night, requiring 2600/(350*.2)=37m^2 per house. Of course this doesn't pull in the inefficiencies of AC-DC conversion, let alone energy storage.

    For wind, this will help a bit, for solar, the physics don't work period. This still will not allow an intermittent power source to be the base of a power production infrastructure.
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    spad12
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    • Re: Pretty Good Idea
      um check out some of the other articles on this site- solar and wind both require next-generation power storage solutions, such as advanced batteries, ultracapacitors, or something like the water-splitting catalysts developed by Nocera lab at MIT and others. That is how you get beyond 10-15%. 

      The thing they have to solve when deploying windmills across large portions of the country is how to deter birds and bats.  The extremely fast-moving blade tips are like buzzsaws for migrating birds and especially bats in Europe.
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      chir0pter
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      • Re: Pretty Good Idea
        Repelling bats shouldn't be too hard, just use a limited range ultra sonic signal they don't like... Only thing is that it'd have to work across all species and hopefully wouldn't attract them or any other wild life.
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        KazW
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    • Re: Is solar practical/impractical?
      Spad, I followed your calculations on available solar power, but don't follow the conclusion that there is an inadequate resource. I did my own checking, and don't quibble with your numbers-- for CA solar radiation data, a 10% PV panel is about .5kWh/day, or 38m2/ca-residence. But the average parking lot stall (Wikipedia) is 30m2, so 1.3 parking lot spaces/household could generate more than 100% of the average residential kWh. (Ignoring storage and backup power.) I would guess average roof area is around 100m2, so aside from trees and slope, roofs, decks, and carports are also practical.

      A Tesla @15Kmi/y needs about 15m2 to run off PV solar, or about 1/2 a parking stall. There are plenty of parking lots that could be covered, also a side-benefit.

      I have statistics for San Mateo County, CA (home of Tesla)-- if just 50% of the industrial+commercial area (mostly large buildings and parking lots) is covered in PV panels, it would meet 100% of the county's current electric usage (residential, commercial, and industrial).

      As mentioned, HVDC makes long distance transport more efficient, and a nationwide link would allow higher overall availability from intermittent sources, according to solar/wind models. But a short DC link connecting long AC lines doesn't save reactance losses.
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      carlhage
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      • Re: Is solar practical/impractical?
        you still have to deal with the inefficiencies in the DC-AC conversion, as well as in storage. In theory yes, you could run an average home with PV cells on the roof on a clear day. With clean PV cells. Yet you have to account for the intermittentcy due to weather, which means you will have to supply and store more significantly more than your base consumption. When you then translate this to the larger power consumers such as office buildings, factories, ect. you begin to run into issues.

        The issue with any intermittent power source is that you will have to build  the generation capability to deal with far more than your capacity factor due to the fact that you have to be able to store the power for times when you won't be generating anything. Along with the storage comes major inefficiencies in converting power generation to stored energy back to usable power. All of these factors mean that using an intermittent power source, and providing the insurance against the intermittency will incur incredible financial costs, and for solar I am not sure that with all the system inefficiencies it is even worth it for large scale. I just don't quite know the numbers on the storage conversion efficiencies.
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        spad12
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  • Why bother with the Grid?
    Let's get off the grid and give every house the ability to power themselves!
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    enantiomer20...
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    • Re: Why bother with the Grid?
      Right on!

      In rainy areas where PV won't work, we can just live in caves and trade fresh killed animals with our neighbors. 
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      erbium
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      • Re: Why bother with the Grid?
        "In rainy areas where PV won't work, we can just live in caves and trade fresh killed animals with our neighbors"

        Let the trading commence!  I will trade you some sharpened rocks for your deer skins.
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        enantiomer20...
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  • [no subject]
    Why can't separate Grids be synchronized?
    Grid frequency is constantly varying around 60Hz. Two grid could synchronized by agreeing to a small bias off 60Hz until  they meet inphase, then reverse the bias  to get back to 60Hz.  
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    durs
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  • Delta
    It is interesting to think of this as a very large transformer configured as a Delta connection, with each grid as a phase in a super 3-phase system. Each grid would be 120 degrees out of phase.

    This setup would not create a single point of failure. If this setup fails, the power available for each seperate grid would be reduced. If a single leg of the Delta configuration fails, it would become an open Delta or Vee connection.
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