Abundant Power from Universal Geothermal EnergyContinued from page 2
TR: You're working on new drilling technology. How does this fit in? JT: We feel that as part of a long-term view of the possibility of universal heat mining, we should also be thinking about revolutionary methods for cutting through rock and completing wells. Most of the drilling that's done today is made by crushing and grinding our way using very, very hard materials to crush through and grind through minerals in the rock. And it's been very successful. It's evolved tremendously over the past century, and we can do it, certainly, routinely, to 10 kilometers. But it costs a lot. So we're looking for a fundamental way to change the technology that would change the cost-depth relationship, and allow us to drill deeper in a much more cost-effective manner. It would open up the accessibility tremendously. TR: What are the advantages compared with other renewable sources of energy? JT: Geothermal has a couple of distinct differences. One, it is very scalable in baseload. Our coal-fired plants produce electricity 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. The nuclear power plants are the same way. Geothermal can meet that, without any need for auxiliary storage or a backup system. Solar would require some sort of storage if you wanted to run it when the sun's not out. And wind can't provide it without any backup at 100 percent reliability, because the typical availability factor of a wind system is about 30 percent or so, whereas the typical availability factor of a geothermal system is about 90 percent or better. TR: What are some environmental concerns with "heat mining?" JT: Obviously in any system where you're going underground, you need to think about are you disturbing the natural conditions in the earth that might cause bad things to happen. We have a pretty good history of knowing the effects of extraction. Nevertheless, it has to be monitored carefully and managed carefully. In some natural systems you have to deal with the emissions -- control of hydrogen sulfide and other gases. Environmental regulations insist on full re-injection of the fluid. This is not a free lunch, but there's virtually no carbon dioxide, so you're producing baseload electric power without generating any carbon dioxide. TR: How fast do you think artificial geothermal systems can be developed? JT: With sufficient financing and a well-characterized field, you can go into existing areas right now and build a plant, getting it operational within a few years. But to get universal heat mining is going to take an investment which won't be quite that quick. It might take 10 or 15 years of investment to get to the point where you have confidence that you can do this in virtually any site that you can go to. Once it gets in place, though, it can be replicated. I think it's very reproducible and expandable. That's the great hope at least. |
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The project is wel advanced at the main site is at Soultz-sous-Forets in France. Progress can be reviewed at the following web address:
European Deep Geothermal Energy Program http://www.soultz.net/version-en.htm
I'd be interested to know where this effort fits into Jefferson Tester's idea of universal geothermal energy. Any comments?
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Other resources:
http://www.llnl.gov/str/October02/October50th.html
http://www.osti.gov/opennet/reports/plowshar.pdf
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the way and means to do new things and solve our problems- but we wont see anything happen unless there is profit to be made - UNLESS we have that
"major project" concept by the government - this is the worst side of our capitalist system - show them the money or nothing happens !!
I have been feeling for so long that we need a new 'energy-focused' party - who will make those big decisions that need to ne made - maybe they will be painful
but we can take it if we know it is
for the future !!
AL please run for president next time !!
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Engineers and researchers can conceive of many solutions, but they won't be implemented unless they are profitable, and they won't be profitable unless they are ... cost effective?
Damn that capitalist obsession with the efficient deployment of capital - what are they trying to do, raise everyones living standards?
And you wonder why Al couldn't win his own state, never mind an election as the incumbant-heir-apparent to a moderately popular president ...
That said, it was an interesting article and geothermal seems to hold significant promise.
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DennisP
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Damn that capitalist obsession with the efficient deployment of capital - what are they trying to do, raise everyones living standards?''
Since when did capitalism become humanist? The only way capitalism inmproves peoples living conditions if it a) can make a buck off of doing it or b) the government makes them. Capitalism is anything but altruistic by nature, actually quite the opposite.
Very few energy industries would exist without government / taxpayer backing. Nice dreamy capitalistic idealism though.
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The earth already radiates away more heat than it receives from the sun, because of the natural decay of radioactive elements. Taping into crust will cool some of the rocks surrounding it which might pose a problem in its self. The Long term and extensive geothermal use at most will only lower the amount of heat reaching the surface of the earth while heat is continually generated inside the earth from natural the decay of radioactive elements.
Don't worry the Earth's core wont go cold.
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Further info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power_in_Iceland
There are also active projects for new types of geothermal plants. Drilling closer to magma chambers than ever before: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4846574.stm
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http://geoheat.oit.edu/
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wearing effects of the environment.
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These advancements allow for higher energy output from geothermal wells than existing closed-loop systems and carry less risk and less costs than Hot-Dry-Rock technologies.
The "holy grail" of geothermal energy generation is baseload power generation at economically viable costs and in any location in the world.
I strongly believe we are very close to succeeding in this endeavor. I invite you to visit our website http://www.bassfeld.eu for a short overview of the technologies involved in a document entitled "Geothermal Power Generation". The website is presently geared more to electricity generation, but with 450 geothermal installed heat systems, some of which have been functioning since more than 22 years, we believe we can help promote alternative energy sources for heating as well.
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bringing steam to turbines. Lower pressure steam could be distributed to homes and buildings for direct heating. Would not there be a "cycle" whereby dead steam would be sent back down to be re-heated? Are there maps, from geological surveys, that can provide a three-dimensional picture to get an idea of relative depths for efficient drilling to sources across the nation?
I lived in a community that smoothed its power demands to the utility by pumping water uphill to a resevoir at night and letting it run back downhill through turbines during the day. Energy storage needs to be looked at more thoroughly with different paradigms as to scale, as most utilities are designed for "economies of scale" but seldom contain the full life-cycle costs
versus more medium and smaller scale plants more directly sited to economic activity and human settlement. Fewer long distance transmission lines and rish of broad outages taking down a net.
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Now, if drilled 3.000 - 5.000 metres below, you´ll get water move up as hot steam and if you drop a cold water on this hot steam, you can creat lightnings when particles are hitting in the middle of drilled well.
Water cycle in the well evermore and produce all energy people will need.
Cost of drilling will be under 20 million dollars in depth of 5.000 meters and concidering the plant costs, efficient of energy will be better than using nu-clear power. Plus without waste and carbon dioxide offcourse.
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