Abundant Power from Universal Geothermal EnergyContinued from page 1
TR: But haven't people been talking about greater use of geothermal energy for years now? What's changed? JT: Like many energy technologies, it had a lot of support structure back in the 70s and in the 80s, but our national priorities shifted from energy to other things, and we didn't necessarily invest enough in it at that time to bring it to fruition. Many [energy] technologies, whether they're renewables or nuclear power or coal or whatever it might be, need to be continually revisited and placed in context with the current state of technology. In this case, our interest in trying to go after hydrocarbons and extract hydrocarbons has developed a lot of technology in subsurface engineering that's useful and makes geothermal worth revisiting. TR: How do you plan to harvest stored heat from more areas? JT: What we're trying to do is emulate what nature has provided in these high-grade systems. When we go very deep, [rocks] are crystalline. They're very impermeable. They aren't heat exchangers like we really need. We'd like to create porosity and permeability. [The rock] actually is filled with small fractures, so what you're trying to do is find those weak zones and reopen them. We need to engineer good connectivity between an injection set of wells and a production set of wells, and sweep fluid, in this case, water, over that rock surface so that we extract the thermal energy and bring it up another well. TR: What technology do you need to open up the rock and harvest the heat? JT: All the technology that goes into drilling and completing oil and gas production systems, [such as] stimulation of wells, hydraulic fracturing, deep-well completion, and multiple horizontal laterals, could in principle be extended to deep heat mining. Hydraulic methods have been the ones that hold the most promise, where you go into the system and you pressurize the rock -- just water pressure. If you go higher than the confinement stress, you will reopen the small fractures. We're just talking about using a few thousand pounds per square inch pressure -- it's surprising how easy this is to do. This is a technique that's used almost every single day to stimulate oil and gas reservoirs. TR: What still needs to be done to make artificial reservoirs for geothermal possible? JT: Like any new technology, there are technical issues. But I don't see any show-stoppers. I think that the evolution of the technology, with 30-plus years of field testing, has been very positive. The basic concept has been demonstrated. We know how to make large reservoirs. We need to connect them better, to stimulate them better than we have in the past using some of these hydraulic methods and diagnostics that are now available to us. So it's the scale-up to a commercial-sized system that has to be done, making a heat mine that is large enough and productive enough to sustain the economic investment. But we believe that's possible to do based on where we are now with the technology.
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The project is wel advanced at the main site is at Soultz-sous-Forets in France. Progress can be reviewed at the following web address:
European Deep Geothermal Energy Program http://www.soultz.net/version-en.htm
I'd be interested to know where this effort fits into Jefferson Tester's idea of universal geothermal energy. Any comments?
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Other resources:
http://www.llnl.gov/str/October02/October50th.html
http://www.osti.gov/opennet/reports/plowshar.pdf
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the way and means to do new things and solve our problems- but we wont see anything happen unless there is profit to be made - UNLESS we have that
"major project" concept by the government - this is the worst side of our capitalist system - show them the money or nothing happens !!
I have been feeling for so long that we need a new 'energy-focused' party - who will make those big decisions that need to ne made - maybe they will be painful
but we can take it if we know it is
for the future !!
AL please run for president next time !!
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Engineers and researchers can conceive of many solutions, but they won't be implemented unless they are profitable, and they won't be profitable unless they are ... cost effective?
Damn that capitalist obsession with the efficient deployment of capital - what are they trying to do, raise everyones living standards?
And you wonder why Al couldn't win his own state, never mind an election as the incumbant-heir-apparent to a moderately popular president ...
That said, it was an interesting article and geothermal seems to hold significant promise.
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DennisP
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Damn that capitalist obsession with the efficient deployment of capital - what are they trying to do, raise everyones living standards?''
Since when did capitalism become humanist? The only way capitalism inmproves peoples living conditions if it a) can make a buck off of doing it or b) the government makes them. Capitalism is anything but altruistic by nature, actually quite the opposite.
Very few energy industries would exist without government / taxpayer backing. Nice dreamy capitalistic idealism though.
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The earth already radiates away more heat than it receives from the sun, because of the natural decay of radioactive elements. Taping into crust will cool some of the rocks surrounding it which might pose a problem in its self. The Long term and extensive geothermal use at most will only lower the amount of heat reaching the surface of the earth while heat is continually generated inside the earth from natural the decay of radioactive elements.
Don't worry the Earth's core wont go cold.
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Further info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power_in_Iceland
There are also active projects for new types of geothermal plants. Drilling closer to magma chambers than ever before: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4846574.stm
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http://geoheat.oit.edu/
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wearing effects of the environment.
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These advancements allow for higher energy output from geothermal wells than existing closed-loop systems and carry less risk and less costs than Hot-Dry-Rock technologies.
The "holy grail" of geothermal energy generation is baseload power generation at economically viable costs and in any location in the world.
I strongly believe we are very close to succeeding in this endeavor. I invite you to visit our website http://www.bassfeld.eu for a short overview of the technologies involved in a document entitled "Geothermal Power Generation". The website is presently geared more to electricity generation, but with 450 geothermal installed heat systems, some of which have been functioning since more than 22 years, we believe we can help promote alternative energy sources for heating as well.
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bringing steam to turbines. Lower pressure steam could be distributed to homes and buildings for direct heating. Would not there be a "cycle" whereby dead steam would be sent back down to be re-heated? Are there maps, from geological surveys, that can provide a three-dimensional picture to get an idea of relative depths for efficient drilling to sources across the nation?
I lived in a community that smoothed its power demands to the utility by pumping water uphill to a resevoir at night and letting it run back downhill through turbines during the day. Energy storage needs to be looked at more thoroughly with different paradigms as to scale, as most utilities are designed for "economies of scale" but seldom contain the full life-cycle costs
versus more medium and smaller scale plants more directly sited to economic activity and human settlement. Fewer long distance transmission lines and rish of broad outages taking down a net.
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C. Alexander...
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Now, if drilled 3.000 - 5.000 metres below, you´ll get water move up as hot steam and if you drop a cold water on this hot steam, you can creat lightnings when particles are hitting in the middle of drilled well.
Water cycle in the well evermore and produce all energy people will need.
Cost of drilling will be under 20 million dollars in depth of 5.000 meters and concidering the plant costs, efficient of energy will be better than using nu-clear power. Plus without waste and carbon dioxide offcourse.
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