Energy

Cheaper Fuel Cells

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  • Wednesday, April 5, 2006
  • By Kevin Bullis

The new material is a long-needed advance, says Brian Benicewicz, professor of chemistry at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI). "For about 30 years now, everybody has used the exact same piece of Nafion, or the same Nafion-like product. We have 30 years of history that shows what the problems are, and a number of engineering solutions to get around the problems with the membrane. What is refreshing about Joe's approach is that now, instead of engineering around a problem membrane, he's actually going back and trying to engineer a better membrane."

The enhanced conductivity of the new material comes in part from having a higher acid content than Nafion -- by definition, acids tend to give up protons, allowing protons to move freely through the material. The amount of acid that can be incorporated into Nafion is limited -- too much acid and its polymers dissolve in water. Because the new material forms a cross-linked polymer once cured, it doesn't dissolve in water, even after being heavily loaded with acid. As a result, "the conductivity goes through the roof," says DeSimone.

While the material has been tested using hydrogen as a fuel, DeSimone says the lab is now testing the material with methanol -- a fuel source that could be important for fuel cells in portable electronics, and maybe vehicles.

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Guest (Frantz Louis-Jacques)

  • 2141 Days Ago
  • 04/05/2006

Cheaper Fuel Cells

Given the upward spirals of our present energy cost envelop I dont understand the 3 years lag time to producing this new commercially.
Also why is this news not on the front page of the Wall Street Journal or the New York Time or the lead story of the TV network?
What's the catch?

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Guest (Kruelhunter)

  • 2141 Days Ago
  • 04/05/2006

Lag times...

Sir;

Commercial production requires, among other things, suitable infrastructure and clear understanding of regulatory climate.  It is unlikely that anyone is currently in a position to produce this new membrane in large quantity much less to take advantage of the governmental regulations and incentives that might apply.
While I cannot speak for the Times or the alphabet soup television news, as a long time reader I suspect that the Journal's staff realizes that while this new material represents an excellent step forward it does not of itself make fuel cell technology cost competitive with the more mature fossil fuel systems currently in use.
On the other hand, this advance, incremental or otherwise, offers evidence that science rather than religion disguised as environmentalism will provide cleaner energy sources.

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Guest (dd)

  • 2071 Days Ago
  • 06/14/2006

after read the news, a lot of soaps in it.

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peter924

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  • 2000 Days Ago
  • 08/24/2006

Re: Lag times...

Dear Guest

Yes, right on for the last paragraph. However, think about how rapidly new technology can be developed, legislated, produced and assimilated if the buying public decides they want it - for whatever reason.

Look at films made in 1992, now look at films made 5-10  years later-spot the mobile phone phenomenon. You can do the same for desktops and VCRs etc. If the automotive users of the world get a fuel cell bug in their ear-Tv coverage-fear of terrorism controlling oil sources- sick of gas prices-for whatever reason, this technology will be whizzing you to work in 5-10 years flat.

There are no substantial problems standing in its way beyond some developmental requirements that are mainly money and not technology based. After all, it's just a car motor not an entire transport network.

Regards
Peter from Brisbane

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Guest (anonymous)

  • 2139 Days Ago
  • 04/07/2006

what is the material

Interesting article, but what is the new material made of? I know what Nafion's structure is, but not this stuff.

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Guest (Simbolic)

  • 2136 Days Ago
  • 04/10/2006

proton exchange membranes

new materials based on tetrafluoroethylene and perfluorinated sulfonated vinyl ethers

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Guest (McClune)

  • 2133 Days Ago
  • 04/13/2006

Ethanol[Sorganol(R)] is a Newer Low Cost Fuel

I have/am developed/ing SorganolR) which we can Produce at Zero Fossil Fuel/Energy Inputs, and at much lower cost >sorganol.com< , it is Totally Renewable, its a completely New Industry trying to implement, LFM

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Guest (Dr. B. J. MACRIS)

  • 2074 Days Ago
  • 06/11/2006

Sorganol

I would very much appreciate any information concerning sorganol production.
Your prompt answer would be greatly appreciared.

Thank you in advance

B. J. Macris
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Guest (avoelectrix)

  • 1764 Days Ago
  • 04/17/2007

Re: Ethanol[Sorganol(R)] is a Newer Low Cost Fuel

I should be grateful if you could provide me with more info
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Robert B van der Merwe

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Guest (Erich J. Knight)

  • 2131 Days Ago
  • 04/15/2006

Solar H2

The rising curve of increasing efficiency for PV, direct solar to hydrogen, and thermal conversion to electricity is most exciting.

The point is right now I could pay $20 K for a 12% efficient PV array to end my electric bill, in effect prepaying my electric bill for twenty years. If the nano developments in PV's, or direct thermal/electric or photoelectrochemical direct conversion to H2, can double the current efficiency while cutting the price in half, then we are talking $5,000 to be bill free.
Hydrogen Solar sent me their current Tandum Cell numbers @ 10.2% efficiency: $1.50/LB for H2
And they say that a theoretical efficiency of 35% is possible, and a 22% efficiency is realistically achievable, i.e.,... $0.75/LB of H2 which equals $0.049/KWhr equivalent. From what I understand of the direct solar to hydrogen fabrication technology, it is a much greener process, and cheaper that silicon based PVs.

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