Energy

Methanol: The New Hydrogen

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  • Monday, March 27, 2006
  • By Chandra Shekhar

In such a system, the carbon dioxide released by burning methanol would be cancelled out by the carbon dioxide captured to make it. So the process would be carbon neutral, and the methanol produced would be a convenient liquid fuel that could replace petroleum-based fuels. If the carbon dioxide comes from air and the hydrogen from water, this method of making methanol would be like fast photosynthesis: "We don't have to wait for plant life to slowly convert excess carbon dioxide into hydrocarbons," Olah says. "We can substitute for Mother Nature."

Olah emphasizes that the methanol produced in this way would not be a new energy source, but simply a convenient way of storing energy. Its advantage over hydrogen would be the ability to use existing engines and infrastructure with only minor modifications.

In many ways, with its low emissions and an octane rating of 100, methanol is already a better fuel for internal combustion engines than gasoline. A methanol engine can run at a higher compression ratio, and is easier to cool. But methanol has some drawbacks: it has lower vapor pressure than gasoline, which makes engines sluggish on cold starts, and it burns with an invisible flame, which could be a safety hazard, since it would be hard for emergency workers to detect in an accident, for example. To mitigate these problems, methanol today is usually blended with 15 percent gasoline to make a fuel mix known as "M85."

Methanol is an even better automotive fuel when used in combination with fuel-cell technology, says Paul Erickson, assistant professor in mechanical engineering at the University of California, Davis. Fuel cells, which convert chemical energy directly into electricity, are more efficient than engines that burn fuel. The hydrogen fuel cell, in particular, has been widely proposed as a clean and efficient alternative to gasoline-powered internal combustion engines. Erickson's laboratory has a functioning hydrogen fuel-cell bus with an onboard reactor that "reforms" methanol to produce hydrogen for its fuel cells. "We completely avoid having to store hydrogen," Erickson says.

Onboard "reforming," however, consumes space and energy. In 1993, Prakash, Olah, and a team at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA, jointly invented a fuel cell that runs directly on a mixture of methanol and water. The cell's positive and negative electrodes are separated by a membrane designed to allow only protons from the methanol to migrate from one electrode to the other. Early versions of this membrane, however, allowed some methanol to get across and react with oxygen at the second electrode, which reduced the voltage of the cell and wasted energy in the form of heat.

In 2001, Prakash and his colleagues developed a new membrane that is both cheaper and more resistant to crossover. With this refinement, the direct methanol fuel cell gives an efficiency of 35 percent, about twice that of an internal combustion engine, but well short of its theoretical efficiency of 97 percent.

The direct methanol fuel cell is currently too expensive to be used in passenger cars. Its high cost comes mainly from the platinum and ruthenium used as catalysts. Prakash and others are developing a variety of approaches to reduce the amount of catalyst needed: making the catalyst more active, increasing its surface area, and using nanoscale methods. When this technology matures, Erickson believes it might replace the hydrogen fuel cell. "An inexpensive, high-power direct methanol fuel cell is the Holy Grail," he says.

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Guest (Jessey)

  • 2151 Days Ago
  • 03/27/2006

Green House Gases

Methane is a green house gas like CO2. I understand that is a more intense green house gas but has a shorter half life. This article states that the methanol making process is "carbon neutral" and it uses methane too. If a process to extract methane from cattle and pork slaughter houses could be designed this would eliminate mass amounts of methane from the atmosphere as appose to natural gas from the ground. Can anyone speak to the validity of this statment?

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Guest (dursun )

  • 2150 Days Ago
  • 03/28/2006

Methanol: The New Hydrogen

What's the benefit over ethanol?

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Guest (Jessey)

  • 2150 Days Ago
  • 03/28/2006

Benefit

Water conservation is probably the best reason I can think of. That is assuming it takes less water to make methanol then to grow crops to make ethanol.

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Guest (Dave)

  • 2149 Days Ago
  • 03/29/2006

Harvesting Methyl Hydrates from the ocean

What about harvesting methyl hydrate deposits in the ocean?  It has been estimated that there's enough energy there to power the Canadian, American and Mexican economy's for the next 500 years.  The problem appears to be attempting to harvest it at depth.  Any comments?

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robsacrob

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  • 1401 Days Ago
  • 04/15/2008

Re: Methanol: The New Hydrogen

ROBERT JAMES ROBINSON
9700 ELMIRA CIRCLE
SACRAMENTO, CA 95827-1120
Tele/Fax: 916-363-9705
EMail: ROBSACROB@cs.com



April 15,2008

ATTENTION: (dursan)

In this letter, I will make some statements in favor of a Methanol Economy rather than a Hydrogen or Ethanol Economy.
A methanol hybrid vehicle would have a fuel injection internal combustion engine with methanol fuel for rural transportation and a direct methanol fuel cell for urban transportation. With this possibility in mind, I have created the low pressure Cellulosic Methanol Process which utilizes hydrous thermolysis to convert glucose from enzymatic hydrolysis of lignocellulosic biomass to glycolaldehyde which is decarbonylated to methanol.at moderate temperature and pressure.
Actually, methanol has a low vapor pressure, but this fault can be resolved by utilization of fuel injection in the internal combustion engine and it is the reason that methanol is the choice as a non-explosive racing fuel. While methanol fuel requires special materials for storage and handling, the same condition applies to ethanol fuel.
Hydrogen is difficult to handle and store because of its small molecular size and it is expensive to produce by electrolysis of water. Ethanol produced by fermentation of wet milled corn starch requires corn planted on land which displace other food crops causing food price inflation, the fermentation process releases a substantial quantity of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, and ethanol requires a government subsidy of about 50 cents per gallon.
Overall, I prefer a methanol economy to either hydrogen or ethanol economies.
Can the you help me with the Cellulosic Methanol Process (data sheet is available upon request)?
Sincerely,



_____________
R.J."Jim"Robinson

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Guest (Rable Rouser)

  • 2144 Days Ago
  • 04/03/2006

Green House Gasses

So is water.  In fact, water vapor is  the worst green house gas going.  What's your point?

Join the crusade to eliminate Dihydrogen Monoxide, also known as Hydric Acid, from the environment!  Get the facts on this dangerous chemical at http://www.dhmo.org/dihydrogen-monoxide/

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Guest (Dave McG)

  • 2017 Days Ago
  • 08/08/2006

Green House gasses

I think you have missed the point, hence Rable Rousers response.  It is methane produced as a result of rumination during live stocks lifetime that is the issue, not at moment of sudden death though I suspect some discharge will occur at this time. 

On  serious note though abatoir wastes are used in AD processes to produce methane which is combusted or used in fuel cell CHP systems.

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Guest (anthony hartley)

  • 2149 Days Ago
  • 03/29/2006

methonal

hey im doing a shcool prject on this becasue i like this very much after reading about it

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Guest (David Weiseth)

  • 2149 Days Ago
  • 03/29/2006

Methanol is poisonous

We would need to contain it well to prevent blindness.  Ethanol is not poisonous in common concentrations.  The real problem with the hydrogen economy is 1. finding a concentrated form of H2 since it is a gas and 2. how to produce H2, as some other energy source must produce it.  Fusion power is the answer, and the medium for conveying energy will be of secondary importance.

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Guest (Andrew)

  • 2023 Days Ago
  • 08/02/2006

Hydrogen

3. Transoprtation issues

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Guest (Chuck Stone)

  • 2122 Days Ago
  • 04/25/2006

Methanol as a fuel

Right catalyst will make high energy methanol cheaper and better than pure methanol - higher btu - better cumbustion.
See work done in Future Fuels Corp. in 1980-1981.  Millions of test miles. Keep on track for America and the environment.

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forEnergy

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  • 1291 Days Ago
  • 08/03/2008

Methanol Production - raw materials

Hi!

Would like to know the pros and cons of methanol production from biomass Vs fossil fuel sources from the point of view of -

1. capital cost
2. operating cost
3. emissions

if possible, pls give a reference to the smallest commercial scale methanol plant based on biomass as raw material

Thanks.

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coal2oil.com

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  • 1019 Days Ago
  • 05/02/2009

CO2toMethanol.com

I'm John M. Kocol, Founder & CEO of CO2toMethanol.com, an eQuarterback.com company. CO2toMethanol.com is the world's first website to sell methanol made from carbon dioxide!

CO2toMethanol.com was founded on April 18, 2009 which was a day after the historic "game changer" CO2-to-Methanol conversion breakthrough in Singapore at the Institute of Bioengineering and Nanotechnology (IBN).

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hannuairas

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  • 896 Days Ago
  • 09/02/2009

methanol from CO2 an water

I am a little curious :-)

Can You tell me
- What is the energy efficiency of Your equipment?
- Can Your equipment work  with mass of energy, like 20-500 MW.

I have an idea!

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