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This discussion relates to Technology Review's article Is GM's Volt Ready to Roll? .

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  smith90201
  

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  11/19/2008 02:42 PM

  EVs - WHO TO TRUST?

  EVs - WHO TO TRUST?
  
  GM Volt is a PR program ONLY. See Ralph Nader in WKTEC. "They promise the earth, meanwhile buy my 8mpg Hummer." Don't bother reading GM's disinformation.
  
  If you do the research - on Amory Lovins's hypercar and the U.S. energy future, Stan Ovshinsky's NiMH battery, Doug Korthof's liveoilfree youtube channel plus those below - you can work out:
  
  1. Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs) are the final destination.
  2. Toyota are continuing to use NiMH, instead of Li ion batteries, for its ten year life.
  3. Toyota are NOT ALLOWED to sell BEVs under a patent law settlement.
  4. Chevron is suppressing Ovshinsky's NiMH battery technology via the Cobasys patents until at least 2014 and longer if they can get away with it.
  5. GM Volt "doesn't have a battery." Excuse me? What a surprise. Obviously they have never heard of the EV-1 from 1995 or Ovshinsky's NiMH battery with proven ten year life and range of 160 miles. Oh wait. They built it. Or the RAV 4-EV with 120 mile range using ... an Ovshinksy patented NiMH battery. Duh!
  6. GM told Saab to glue shut the plug-in socket on a car show prototype. A minor oddity, granted. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/06/saab_to_premier.html
  7. The investment funds / trusts that control the U.S. auto companies may be owned or controlled by the oil companies. Why have they allowed the value of their stock go to zero, while Toyota's has gone in the opposite direction, from $20B to $200B in ten years(?). Two words. Razors. Blades. The money is made on supplying the blades. In this case the gas.
  
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  Trusted sources from Who Killed the Electric Car. They lead to others. Use the web of trust  to avoid constant disinformation from lobbyists, in forums, etc. - nuclear, coal, Chevron on EVs. Why disinformation? There are very big dollars at stake - "$100T in 'business remaining to be done' in oil alone - WKTEC."
  
  Iris and Stan Ovshinsky - in WKTEC. American genius. 'Good guy.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_R._Ovshinsky
  - Berkeley Alternative Energy speech (long intro to intro @ 13:40) video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYxoacwuxg
  
  Who Killed the The Electric Car. Ignore Italian subtitles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wofjkTmVgt4
  
  Amory Lovins http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid41.php
  - On the Hypercar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D-uhKHy7mk
  When you hear "hydrogen" realise that the Ovshinsky NiMH battery IS a hydrogen storage device. Doug Korthof describes it and how it could have been available TEN years ago and OR RIGHT NOW, with pressure.
  
  Doug Korthof liveoilfree http://www.youtube.com/liveoilfree
  
  S. David Freeman http://www.thegreencowboy.com/
  
  
  Join the Electric Auto Association (EAA). http://www.eaaev.org/. 
  
  Read Plug in Hybrids by Sherry Boschert http://www.amazon.com/Plug-Hybrids-Cars-Recharge-America/dp/0865715718/
  and ZOOM: The Global Race to Fuel the Car of the Future by Vijay Vaitheeswaran. http://www.amazon.com/ZOOM-Global-Race-Fuel-Future/dp/0446698660/
  
  Remember that there is a great deal of disinformation and FUD flying on EVs. Why? Well $100 Trillion is a good starting pointing. "It's the oil lobby, stupid" seems to be a good general answer to a lot of questions at the moment. Like, oh say, the last eight years.
  
  EAA found that EV forums and threads are being co-opted by AI generated replies that are pages long, written at the engineering thesis level ... and appear within fifteen minutes of posting some comments to EV threads. From one lobbyist on the E. coast. He is certainly doing a more cost effective job than the myriad paid FUD spreaders on political websites.
  
  Become immune to FUD - do the reading :-)

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  Solvere
  

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  11/25/2008 03:48 AM

  Energy Solvere

  Dear Friends
  
  ICE is good for high torque application when electrical motor cannot perform.
  
  Today, electrical motor out perform in this range, over ICE.
  
  So eletrify cars is the way to go.
  And reciprocating ICE has to give way to more efficient rotating machines.
  
  Turbo eletric system today is contrained by the bulky boilers. Even turbo generator can miniaturized, the whole boiler through to generator cannot.
  
  So you need to acclerate the combustion into more efficient, more directional gust to turn turbine.
  "Direct Thermal Transport" is one of the invention.
  
  General Motor's competency has moved from ICE to a lot more on design, electrical systems, low voltage DC equipment. GM has to capitalize on this - "Dynamite Economy 5 - Put the Growth Engines Back"
  
  Proud American,asked not Fed to fund you
  Ask for more of heavenly forces to make your system more efficient.
  
  It is us, the Eletronic generations helped GM to be profitable, fortune top few during the 80s.
  
  Let us join our hands again
  
  Solvere LIM Swee Keng
  Engineer, Inventor, Economist with Philosophical Depth
  SM(MIT), MBA(Law)
  CtS Cognoscere tenus Solvere
  Cognize before Happening
  Solving beyond Root Causes
  www.cts-ideas.com

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  wrrock
  

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  08/06/2009 02:12 PM

  It's ready

  Still, the Chevy Volt is the first American car I’ve seen in at least 5 years that looks and sounds good enough that (if priced right) I would go American and pick the Volt in a heartbeat. I say this as an Acura owner and lover, and as someone who has been thoroughly underwhelmed to the point by the design and offerings of the American auto industry. Car dealers would need to adjust for training, but if they do that right and combine it with a word-of-mouth program the sales could really take off.

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