Computing

A Quantum Leap in Battery Design

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  • Monday, December 21, 2009
  • By David Talbot

But Schindall also says the concept has merit. "I'm cautiously intrigued, because he does have some legitimate arguments for the fact that at these quantum dimensions, the energy storage effect is at least predicted to go up considerably," Schindall says. "The first challenge is: are his assumptions correct, or are there some other phenomena that haven't been looked at that get in the way?"

In some ways, the concept represents a variation on existing micro- and nanoelectronic devices. "If you look at it from a digital electronics perspective--it's just a flash drive," says Hubler. "If you look at it from an electrical engineering perspective, you would say these are miniaturized vacuum tubes like in plasma TVs. If you talk to a physicist, this is a network of capacitors."

The digital part of the concept derives from the fact that each nanovacuum tube would be individually addressable. Because of this, the devices could perhaps be used to store data, too.

Other methods exist for boosting the performance of capacitors. Advanced versions, called ultracapacitors, can store significant energy and operate more quickly by increasing the surface area of their electrodes and using an electrolyte. Schindall's group has increased the charge and discharge rates and storage capacity of traditional ultracapacitors by using carbon nanotubes instead of activated carbon on the electrode's surface. In essence, this increases the surface area of the electrode.

The advantages to Schindall's design--increased power output and energy density--could be crucial for applications like soaking up huge pulses of energy rapidly from a field of wind turbines or solar arrays, for example. Plus, his team has actually built a benchtop device. The downside is that the energy density of a given mass of material would still be somewhat lower than that of lithium-ion batteries.

While Hubler hasn't yet built anything, he notes that, in 2005, a group of Korean researchers showed that nanoscale capacitors could be fabricated. Hubler's device would still need billions or even trillions of such devices, however.

"I complete agree we desperately need new ways of storing electric energy," says Schindall. "Though it may be in competition with what I'm doing, I wish him the greatest of success and hope it works."

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mahonj

46 Comments

  • 783 Days Ago
  • 12/21/2009

Applications for Qunatun supercaps

These should be used for regenerative braking and high value applications that require very high peak power.
Using them for wind gust capture might have some merit - but I can see no benefits for using them in solar generation - it is not peaky, just between 0 and 100%, generally changing slowly.

Another intriguing application is using them for charging buses at bus stops, where you have 30-60 seconds to get as much power as possible into a battery pack (preceded by a supercap bank).

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GroovyGeek

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  • 781 Days Ago
  • 12/23/2009

Something does not add up

One of the biggest problems with flash devices is oxide degradation upon repeated write cycles.  The same issue exists for thin gate oxides of leading-edge electronic devices.  I need to read the full paper, but from the summary here the implication is that at the "nanoscale" these effects magically disappear, which is not the case

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profquatermass

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  • 778 Days Ago
  • 12/26/2009

Why do people use that term?

Quantum means basically 'very small'.

So why is 'Quantum Leap' considered to be a large or special leap?

It's a puzzle..

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rplyler

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  • 776 Days Ago
  • 12/28/2009

Re: Why do people use that term?

Quantum refers to a "stepwise" function, not necessarily small (although in most instances, it is).

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blueworld

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  • 527 Days Ago
  • 09/03/2010

Re: Why do people use that term?

A Quantum supposedly "connects" "spin" to a quantum at extremely high speeds (maybe 10,000 X speed of light) across nearly infinite distances.  Quantum leap is then be a very descriptive term.

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jimbo92107

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  • 777 Days Ago
  • 12/27/2009

Foundation for a brain?

These microscopic capacitors could also provide decentralized power to billions of discrete yet interconnected artificial neurons. Perhaps they could be recharged and transported via a micro-fluidic system, providing power en masse like blood cells to your brain.

Or just a battery would be fine.

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ivanp

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  • 731 Days Ago
  • 02/11/2010

Re: Foundation for a brain?

Implications of your idea are quite huge and exciting I must say.

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blueworld

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  • 527 Days Ago
  • 09/03/2010

Re: Foundation for a brain?

Suggest you read the Penrose–Hameroff 'Orch OR' model of consciousness for quantum computation in brain microtubules.

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sweerek

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  • 775 Days Ago
  • 12/29/2009

Capture a lighting bolt?

With a very fast charge rate, might these be used to capture static electricity charges? ... be it personally while walking on carpet, in a car from silicon-rubber wheels build-up, or with lighting across a regional grid.  Hmmmmm

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Guest (DG624)

  • 774 Days Ago
  • 12/30/2009

Battery

I have read about a variety of battery possibilities using different materials mostly lithium.  Can a nanoscale capacitor be constructed to store energy for longer periods and can any solid material be used to store energy?

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