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Boeing's Composite Problem

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  • Friday, April 18, 2008
  • By David Talbot

What's more, he says, composites allow engineers to make custom shapes, but these custom shapes compound the already difficult modeling problem. "You have many more design options, which can be both a strength and a weakness. There are many more things I can do with composite materials--add strength in specific places, take it away--but then you have combinations of both the geometry and the particular layup of the composite materials" that are unique.

Boeing's mechanical stress tests start with representative pieces (known as coupons), then move on to progressively larger parts of the structure, and finally to the full structure. Boeing puts the structural parts into huge hydraulic machines that bend and twist them to mimic stresses that go far beyond worst-expected conditions in real flights. It was during such tests that problems emerged with structural spars in the wing box.

Shanahan said in last week's conference call that Boeing has traced the problem back to an error in earlier modeling analysis, but he did not explain the details. "We discovered it. We'll go back and correct it," he said. Shanahan added that Boeing has not lost faith in its decisions to more widely use composites; 95 percent of thousands of tests have yielded as-good or better-than-expected results. On one such test--of the composite-made fuselage "barrel"--engineers had to stop the test for fear of breaking the test equipment, he bragged.

David Roylance, a composites expert and associate professor in materials engineering at MIT, says that Boeing's experience with the 787 shows that the industry is still on a learning curve in using composites more widely in commercial planes. "There are a whole variety of things with composites that are engineerable, but are different than metals," he says. "So it takes time for people to feel comfortable with it."

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lasertekk

146 Comments

  • 1397 Days Ago
  • 04/18/2008

History repeats itself

Oh boy, memories of the DeHavilland Comet....

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mbloore

39 Comments

  • 1397 Days Ago
  • 04/18/2008

Re: History repeats itself

except that this time, we know to look for problems first.
which is not to say that we know every place to look.

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Shiladie

56 Comments

  • 1395 Days Ago
  • 04/20/2008

Re: History repeats itself

It's the problem with any new techsnologies, you always have the failed tests.  We just need to make sure they are tested completely before being used...

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gabrielg01

450 Comments

  • 1394 Days Ago
  • 04/21/2008

Let other people fly on it

A lot of military jets are falling apart in the air due to this stupid gluing business, but the fighter pilots can eject and parachute. The airliner passengers won't be so lucky.

Stay away from this airplane for the next 3-5 years, until they fix the bugs in it. It's like Windows Vista, except a crash has a different meaning.

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dgholstein

2 Comments

  • 1386 Days Ago
  • 04/29/2008

Re: Let other people fly on it

What do you mean, stay away for the next 3-5 years?  The Dehavilland Comet started flying in '51, the first crash attributed to the square window panels occured in '54, 3 years.  Seems to me, the first 3-5 years are pretty safe, not yet enough time to develop stress fractures.

Let's hope everyone involved (manufacturer, airlines, FAA) starts on a regular inspection program to see how the materials age, through time and regular use.

   ...Dan

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rodbennet

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  • 1371 Days Ago
  • 05/14/2008

Re: Let other people fly on it

Thanks Dan, I fully agree with your posting.

For more information on an integrated approach to real life composite behaviour (mechanical stress including hygrothermal ageing conditions) the following web forums have been quite useful to me:

-integrated forum on composite properties
-diffusion and corrosion properties of composites

Regards,
Rodney

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