Computing

Stopping Cars with Radiation

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  • Tuesday, November 13, 2007
  • By Brittany Sauser

"I have no doubt that if you set up a microprocessor and get a high-powered, well-focused beam of energy on [a car], you can disrupt its operation," says Peter Fisher, a professor of physics and the division head in particle and nuclear experimental physics at MIT. But to be able to deploy such a system safely will take some work, he says.

Imagine if a police officer is in a high-speed chase near a shopping mall and turns on one of these systems to stop the perpetrator: a lot of elevators have microprocessor controls, so if the officer is pointing the device in the direction of the mall, he or she could end up trapping 12 people in an elevator, says Fisher. Many other electronic systems, such as an automated teller machine or a security system, could also be disrupted.

Furthermore, Fisher cautions that, while the system may seem like an easier and more efficient solution than spike strips, it could still cause a huge accident if a car is disabled and a driver loses steering control. The system could pose a safety concern as well: radiation can burn human skin, and microwaves have long been suspected of being a cancer-causing agent.

At the moment, the most practical application for the system would be in the U.S. Army or Marine Corp, for perimeter protection of areas that are generally remote, says Fisher. Initial funding for the project came from the U.S. Marine Corp, but now Eureka Aerospace is looking to other governmental agencies for financial support as the company continues to work to make the device smaller, lighter, and more efficient. (Tatoian says that details regarding future work with the military are confidential.)

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SirLanse

71 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

pacemaker

What happens to the pacemaker in the guy driving?
Does speeding become a death sentence?
And KITT had this back in 1982.

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stradric

33 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Re: pacemaker

Do you really think the guy making a daring getaway is going to have a pacemaker?

And it's not for speeding.  That's just silly.  Non-criminal people pull over.  They don't need to have their car computers fried.  This is obviously for those people who flee from the cops.  If you're so worried about the criminals' pacemakers, then take solace that the cops will probably issue a warning before firing the device.  If not, oh well.

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cyberpageman

53 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

aluminum foil

Not only pacemakers, but computers in the neighborhood will be stopped.  For protection, everything will have to be wrapped in aluminum foil, including car electronics.

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stradric

33 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Re: aluminum foil

Actually no.  The article clearly mentions the use of "well-focused" beams.  This device would not work without focusing the beams.  So your assertion is incorrect.

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tsaidak

18 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Military applications

While the current range is too short, this seems to be more of a military weapon.  Get the range out to one or two kilometers and imagine what this would do to missiles and aircraft.
As a police tool, I suspect that this would depend on how well focused it is.  Using it from a helicopter from above might be a way to deal with stray shot issues.

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BuckyOHare

4 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Tesla's Peace Ray

This sounds exactly like Tesla's preposed "peace ray"

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Cultor

7 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Ops

Should I be a criminal I would be buying some of these devices.

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ghaller

6 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

caper movie

Some reader is probably already introducing this into a caper movie; the perps use it to keep the police from chasing them.  In the movie version, a special noise is emitted and the cars always flip over.  Die Hard 5 - and it does affect Bruce Willis' pacemaker. 

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MITBeta

43 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Aircraft carrier?

Why would an aircraft carrier need microwaves to stop a car?

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jesgoiri

2 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Re: Aircraft carrier?

I guess a plane's electronics can be well fried with the microwave beam.

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fiberman

186 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Mil Platforms Should Not Be Affected

For at least 20 years, mil platforms have been built to withstand EMP (electromagnetic pulse from nuclear blasts.) Aircraft are primarily fly-by-light with EMP-protected electroncis.

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richmeyer7

1 Comment

  • 1549 Days Ago
  • 11/19/2007

"Automobile or aircraft" carrier

I think this awkward phrase was intended as above, to state that the carrier can be an automobile or aircraft (e.g., police fixed-wing aircraft or helicopter).

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johntstaten

2 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

EMP & Telecom

Anybody know if telecom is hardened? There is still alot of copper going into Telco central offices. Those lines served by fiber might survive an EMP but if the beem hit a customer "drop wire" I suspect if would be possible to take down the switch. (That would be a way to shut down all burglar alarms!) For the technology to be safe maybe mutiple phased transmitters could be used. No one beam would be "hot" enough to affect most devices. Only at the focus would there be enough energy to build the EMP necessary to take out the automobile control systems.

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risingblue

8 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

engine fires

Most engines on cars that are not new have grease and some leaking oil on the outside surfaces.  If you have ever put butter or oils in the microwave, you know they get very hot very fast.  Also, hope you don't have any leaks in your gas tank! 

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gabrielg01

450 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

What about the occupants' safety?

If there are innocent victims in such incidents - such as hostages - how are you going to microwave the car without hurting the people?

People have glasses, various metal implants (metal plates for bone fractures, dental braces, insulin pumps, cochlear implants, or pacemakers etc.)

Jewelry, watches, the metals in some clothing (bra wire, pant zippers) will also heat up tremendously. Some batteries in portable electronics are already hot/warm as they are now - give them a microwave burst and they'll go up in flames.

It seems like a very dumb idea to use such an indiscriminate device.

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McMillan968

38 Comments

  • 1555 Days Ago
  • 11/13/2007

Re: What about the occupants' safety?

Driver is instantly cooked!!
How do you like your meat???
OR quick cancer treatment!!!

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lando03

1 Comment

  • 1553 Days Ago
  • 11/15/2007

Re: What about the occupants' safety?

Actually the heating associated with the microwave energy is a function of average power. The average power in a 50ns pulse of microwave energy isn't enough to cause any appreciable temperature rise in a person or their clothing. The radiation we're subjected to during high-altitude airplane travel (think thinner atmosphere- more UV, xray etc..) is much worse in terms of ionizing (cancer-causing) radiation than anything this would do.

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sophocles

1 Comment

  • 1554 Days Ago
  • 11/14/2007

how does the system not disable the police car too?

my favorite line from "Red October" - you ignorant fool, you have killed *US*

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dstroud1

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  • 1554 Days Ago
  • 11/14/2007

Stopping Cars with Radiation

Please accept the fact that the public majority does not care about your freedom to escape from the police. If you are dumb enough to get caught then it is acceptable to us for your car's computer and your pacemaker to go up in smoke. Especially when it stops you from killing innocent families. More power to those who will enhance it to the point of "smokin'" the perps.

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askmahesh

6 Comments

  • 1554 Days Ago
  • 11/14/2007

cheep microwave bulb

It was in the news few years ago about a kid who modified a microwave bulb to use in a similar fashion. The cost at that time was about 60$ for making effectively the same device. So this is "old technology repackaged and costing 1000" times more deal is it ?

Seems kind of like IPOD Vs MP3 player

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McMillan968

38 Comments

  • 1533 Days Ago
  • 12/05/2007

Stopping vehicles

Lets NOT forget using them at sea to stop the pirates that have been attacking ships off the coast of Africa.Or using it to stop a boat attacking one of our frigates.Or even hell bent on disabiling an off shore oil rig. All of those are fine uses.And as someone mentioned could it stop an incomming missle?? Better/CHEAPER than i forget the name of the ship protection that fires computer controlled rounds at incomming missles?Of coarse then ship companies will cry.

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rfdnager

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  • 301 Days Ago
  • 04/20/2011

RF Microwave Energy

I built this device 25 years ago. My version is 100 times more lethal than what is descibed here. In the 90's we would be behind cars that were too slow. We would kill thier engine computer moduel with the flick of a switch. We would drive through supermarkets and turn the neon shopping center lights on just by driving by. Make railroad crossings go up and down. And yeah some times if we felt ballsy enough your TV went all white county wide while we drove by the Satellite transmiting anntenas at our local TV Stations. This is real dangerous stuff. I am paying the price today with my vision. These high wattage amounts can give you Cancer and Lukiemea. It basically cooks your brain and any electronic device it is used on. If you read FCC part 15 you will see that it states: This device must accept any interfernce which may cause undesirable operation. This is stamped on most all electrical home and other devices made. There is a spectrum in the air wave frequency that is the dirtiest spectrum known. Using that frequency magnifies far worse what they are talking about here. FEMA used to sell all there old transmiting equipment at auctions and thats how we got the crazy idea to do this. You can make some one blind with this kind of dangerous stuff. Same with the brain. Tap into the right frequency and down they so to sleep. If they have a pacemaker there a goner. Never mess with this stuff on your own. Back in the day you would not get caught. Today is a whole new ball game and the traces from your transmitted radiation are like a finger print long after you have left the scene /

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