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Eight Tips for the "Microsoft iPod" Team

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  • Tuesday, July 11, 2006
  • By Wade Roush

4. Be Less Paranoid about Sharing
But for Wi-Fi sharing to work, Microsoft would need to work out compromises with content producers that lighten digital rights management (DRM) restrictions that it and other companies place today on most commercial digital content. Songs purchased at MSN Music, for example, can be transferred to CD or portable players and played on up to five "authorized" PCs owned by the customer, but won't play on friends' computers. Apple's own FairPlay DRM system also places tight restrictions on sharing, but does allow songs from one customer's iTunes library to be streamed to other computers on the same local-area network.

Microsoft has almost a decade of experience with DRM technologies, and longstanding relationships with music, TV, and movie industries. It should be able to convince content producers that sharing doesn't always equal piracy, and negotiate rights that allow sharing but also make it easy for the recipients of shared files to buy their own copies, if they want to listen or watch again. According to the Times, the terms of the rights needed to enable the wireless streaming function "had yet to be worked out."

5. Reach Out to Podcasters and Vodcasters
Right alongside the commercial songs and TV shows on many people's iPods are gigabytes of free content, including podcasts and vodcasts (video-on-demand-casts). And making and listening to amateur podcasts isn't the geek pastime it once was: already, the free-podcast section of iTunes has celebrated its first birthday. It would serve Microsoft well to engage the community of podcast producers and listeners from the beginning.

For example, the company could solicit podcasters' suggestions about new features that might make the MiPod and the Microsoft music store more hospitable for user-contributed content. It could involve them in beta tests of the hardware and software. It could tailor DRM technology for producers who prefer using Creative Commons licenses and other forms of "copyleft" to the standard system of copyrights. Courting podcasters with real attention and real improvements on existing media player technology would virtually guarantee positive buzz when the MiPod hits the market.

6. Integrate Broadcast Radio and TV Programming
Time-shifting -- consuming broadcast content at your own convenience, rather than the networks' -- is as old as the VCR. Devices like the TiVo digital video recorder have updated time-shifting for the digital age. But it's still a forbidding, multi-step process to capture live radio or television for later consumption on a portable player.

iTunes includes a directory of hundreds of Internet sites that stream live radio -- but no recording capability. For that, users must turn to software such as ReplayRadio or PC accessories such as Griffin Technologies' Radio Shark, which turn Internet radio broadcasts into MP3 files that can then be transferred to a portable player. TiVo offers a system that transfers recorded shows from a TiVo DVR to a computer, where they can then be converted and compressed into a format that's viewable on a video iPod. But while the system is dubbed "Tivo To Go," it's hardly as simple as getting take-away food.

Taking radio and TV with you on your portable player shouldn't be for geeks only. Microsoft could get a leg up on Apple by making the MiPod into a true Tivo To Go. The Media Center version of Windows XP already includes a DVR capability for customers who install a TV-tuner card in their PCs. Why not build this capability into all versions of Windows Vista, and build in a compression utility that can automatically prepare the files for a MiPod?

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Guest (brad)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

How the "Microsoft iPod" Might Succeed

So MS would need to do everything that's already being done, but do it better.

"Apple controls an entire mobile media ecosystem, from the copy-protected AAC format of the original music and video files... It doesn't have to share its revenues with anyone except the record labels and TV networks that create the content."

Apple does have to licence it's use of the industry standard Mpeg4 format. If MS used it's own proprietary media formats, they would have the advantage of avoiding standard licensing fees, while increasing their own licensing income from gadget makers using MS media formats. Apple doesn't have this luxury. They don't own Mpeg4.

"Wi-Fi transmits data faster than USB or FireWire"
Firewire speed is 400Mbps and 800Mbps. The fastest WiFi is about 70Mbps, isn't it?

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Guest (dave)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

MPEG-4

True Apple doesn't own MPEG-4. No one does. The open consortium of the MPEG group of which Apple & Real are part of have kept it free and open knowing that Microsoft would do something like come up with a "Windows" media audio file that they would try to consume the market with. MP4 was left open to defend against that. And the RECORD COMPANIES demanded DRM. If Apple didn't find and use FairPlay to protect its files, no one would be buying legal downloads. It would be nothing but lawsuits and filesharing.

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Guest (Lazlo)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

The author

Apparently the author of this article is working for MS and has no grasp of technology, because
A. Wi-Fi is not faster than USB 2.0 or Firewire
B. itunes lets you convert to many different file formats, including standard mp3
C. iTunes music store and the itunes software are incredibly easy to use, even all my computer illiterate employees have and use an ipod.

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Guest (Sean)

  • 2043 Days Ago
  • 07/12/2006

How it will succed ?

Simple do what the ipod fails to do . formats : it shoudl play ogg and flac and wma and mp3 and m4a ad mp3. I can't understand why all players don't do this . it's cant be that hard to include a codec for something . The wifi thing is very cool but i think ipod has dones o well cos it appeal to the not tech minded so i think maybe thats the key consern

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Guest (Arlen Owens II)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

Sharing

I don't think MS can overcome it's obsession with licensing issues to allow the kind of "easy sharing" that music downloaded from iTunes affords.  MS will lock down the users' abilities to burn too many CD's and will be totally focused on pushing technologies like "subscriptions" that the users just hate.   The truth is, you can download a song from iTunes, burn a CD, rip it onto one of your other computers, and burn to your heart's content.  It allows people to purchase music and share it among their multiple computers or friends.  Yes, some of that may be fringe illegal, but MS will do everything to restrict the users' ability to share.  It's in their DNA.....a part of their corporate culture.  I think that will be their downfall.

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Guest (Brian)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

Unencumbered?

not a word in microsoft's dictionary. In order to re-invent the iPod they need to re-invent themselves - a tall order.

wi-fi is too slow at the moment. where do I get these new excellent batteries? MS needs to invent them too.

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Guest (Gurn)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

On the go

If somebody wants to make a real dent in the iPod market, fix my two biggest complaints:
1.  Scrolling through thousands of artists on a 30 or 60GB ipod takes forever with that stupid wheel.
2.  Allow me to create playlists on the fly.  Don't make me spend hours at my computer creating playlists.

Oh, and compete with the ridiculously low cost of the iPod for the storage.  That's the only reason I bought the product from apple.  Seems like they've got to be subsidizing the hardware.

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Guest (Tom)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

On the go

Well... you can do playlists on the go with an iPod... they are called (ironically) On The Go playlists. ;-)

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Guest (ConTho)

  • 2041 Days Ago
  • 07/14/2006

On The Go

The Funny things about the Apple iPod Lists and On the fly playlists is RIO had that fixed with the Karma. You were able to short cut to the first letter and you could create playlists on the device... I hope MS is smart enough to talk to the existing "Play for Sure" device makers and license some of their ideas.

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Guest (gslusher)

  • 2027 Days Ago
  • 07/28/2006

On the Go

1. Could you suggest a faster way to scroll using minimal manual controls?

2. It's a LOT easier and faster to make playlists with the computer. You complained about the scrolling. To make a on-the-fly playlist, you'd have to scroll through each artist's albums & songs, go back up the menu, find another artist, etc. It would probably take at least 50 times as long to do on the fly.

However, the iPod ALREADY HAS THAT FEATURE. It's called "on-the-go" playlists. Get the PDF manual and read about it. It helps to do a bit of research before shooting oneself in the foot.

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Guest (Jeremy Czubko)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

WIFI is faster than USB or Firewire???

USB and Firewire are both faster than WIFI! Try sending a library of 6000 mp3s over wifi and then over firewire and tell me which is faster.  I think this article needs a little bit more thought. Itunes is GOOD at organizing music! When a cd is put in the computer, itunes opens, uses the CDDB to look up the tracks and metadata, you import the songs, and voila! the music gets loaded to your ipod the next time it is plugged in!  I don't understand why the writer things there are issues with itunes. Microsoft needs to do two things to gain ground against Apple. Microsoft needs to copy apple's system (Again) and sell it for less.

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Guest (Mitch Coopet)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

Wifi SLOWER than USB/Firewire

I agree with this comment - USB 2.0 is ~400 Mb/s as is Firewire.  The latest version of Firewire supports 800 Mb/s.  Wi-Fi is 54Mb/s - 108 MB/s under IDEAL conditions.  Perhaps, the writer is privy to a brand-new gigbit Wi-Fi protocol, which I'd love to read about!

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Guest (cyboreric)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

WiFi, USB or Firewire

I agree...both USB and Firewire are faster than wifi but I still think WiFi synching locally with your library would be great. Right now my PPC synchs with my system via WiFi and it would be nice if all my devices synched via wifi. That way I can leave all my devices in my front hall on my key table without having to lug all my devices into my computer room to synch.
Also, I think iTunes is a horrible program. It's slow and cumbersome and its mp3 tags are not standard...you rate a song in itunes and it doesn't follow accross library's.

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Guest (James)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

wifi, usb

USB 2.0 max speed is 480MB/s, but you're not just sending data.   53MB/s is the maximum user data speed, the rest of the bandwidth is eaten up by USB protocol stuff.

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Guest (dave)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

AAC/MP4 Support

Not one journalist, blogger, or speculator has ever pointed out something so incredibly obvious. Although the iTunes Music Store sells Protected AAC (MP4) files, iPod users by and large have converted their CD libraries to unprotected AAC (MP4). This is a completely open and free format -- the MPEG-4 audio standard -- that anyone could support. Not one single iPod rival has included it. So users like myself with over 140 GB of open source, free MP4 audio files cannot switch from the iPod. Everyone zeros in and focuses on the FairPlay DRM version of AAC that Apple uses in the store, no one points out that every rival could include AAC support and doesn't. I have to believe that in Microsoft's quest to rule the digital audio world with WMA, their propaganda campaign of "Plays4Sure" requires that MP4 support be excluded, thereby crippling those who try to take on the iPod.

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Guest (Tony Martin)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

'come from behind' days are over?

The last 'come from behind' victory was when IE over took Netscape. The X-Box has yet to take the crown from Sony's PlayStation and MS is no where in the league of Google. I doubt, with being on several war fronts, that MS can have the talent or stay power to take on the iPod. All this while it seems Apple is intent on taking some of Windows market share with OS X and the new Intel Macs.

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Guest (Dave)

  • 2042 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2006

'come from behind' days are over?

I disagree.  The X-box 360 is well on it's way to beating the PS3, MSN actually receives more total hits than google, sure they win at search but in a fight that is ultimately about advertising he with the most hits wins.  I will give you the iPod - Apple is effortless crushing all competition but I think MS is much more of a threat than you give them credit for.

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Guest (da)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

wrong out about iTunes store

the itunes store is absolutely perfect...iTunes as a jukebox yes needs much work

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Guest (ms)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

beaming and DRM

Perhaps if the beamed version were slightly degraded (as it would be for analog copying) it wouldn't run afoul of DRM and wouldn't require complex agreements with the industry.

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Guest (Paul)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

Subscription is the killer

iTMS doesn't support subscription music, a business model I (and most others I talk to) much prefer over the "you-buy-it-you-sort-of-own-it" model that iTMS uses exclusively.  That alone is enough to make me put up with the less than perfect hardware that is currently available.  The iPod has better software, a nicer interface and way cooler hardware than any of the WMA playing DMPs.  Perhaps MS can make something that is hardwarily as beautiful as the iPods, if so then Apple will have to look out.

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Guest (How Goes It)

  • 2043 Days Ago
  • 07/12/2006

Only 17% of downloaders have used Subscription

According to this URL,  http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-6090042.html?part=rss&tag=6090042&subj=news  only 17% of downloaders have used Subscription

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Guest (Podboy)

  • 2042 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2006

Subscriptions?

Everyone you talk to prefers subscriptions do they? - Is that why Napster and Real are still struggling with their subscription-based business models?

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Guest (LW)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

How about: Be less arrogant than apple: Open the APIs

The thing I hate most about apple in relation to the iPod is their arrogance that they think they know what consumers really want their iPods to do (and not do).  I've asked them in the past to open up the API layer to give easy access to the tune library on the iPod from other devices and they won't give this to the public.  My most sincere recommendation to anybody that wants to develop a rival music device is "open in up" to allow your customers to innovate on the platform.

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Guest (LW)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

Open It Up

- Provide a JAR file w/ API calls that can be run from any system (unix, linux, mac, windows, whatever)
- Provide a published API at the hardware connector level to allow 3rd party devices to connect to it and interact better (done too exclusively w/ a few car stereo manufacturers today, but their are many other applications I can think of that I'd love to see)

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Guest (Wade Roush)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

WiFi IS slower, thanks for the correction.

I've fixed this error in the story. Thank you, dear readers.

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Guest (Anonymous)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

iTunes does NOT require much attention to sync w/ iPod

The assertion, stated in the article, that "Determining which files are stored on one's PC and which on one's iPod, and whether the two are correctly synchronized, requires careful attention." is totally ridiculous.  The current iTunes-iPod syncing works extremely well and extremely easily on any computer.  Once the iTunes software is installed (which is, again, a very simple process), one must only choose a name for the iPod and it transfers everything.  To change settings takes two clicks within the iTunes interface.  Moreover, iTunes provides easy-to-understand feedback about the process of music transfer to the iPod and allows the user to easily tell which files have been transferred.

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Guest (Ted)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

Car Stereo Control

Microsoft should create a standard control interface that car manufactures and home stereo manufactures can use to wirelessly listen and control the MPod. Imagine you buy a car with built in MPod functionality and your home stereo also has that functionality? Would you buy an IPOD or an MPod? Give it away to all Car and home stereo manufactures.

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Guest (dan)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

radio shark not for streamed audio

griffen's radio shark peripheral is for recording and timshifting terrestrial radio not internet radio

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Guest (JuggerNaut)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

If Argo is Windows-only, it'll surely fail!

I think people put more emphasis at computer level compatibility (hence multiplatform) than what is assumed by the so called experts.  Since most portable media  players offer no real product differentiation to their competing rivals, then folks are going to keep with one they no works and works well with both Mac and Windows.  People want real choice everywhere and Microsoft's approach impedes that on the desktop computer!

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Guest (JuggerNaut)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

D'OH! meant "know" rather than "no"...

for any of those human-based spell/grammer checkers out there ;-)

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Guest (anon)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

huh?

this artcile is pure crap. no suggestion is truly innovative. perhaps what the auther should have written is that if MS is willing to take a serious financial hit then they can buy themselves into the market. MS is pathetic. how about the create their own new product cateogory instead of always siphoning from others

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Guest (LW)

  • 2042 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2006

I feel you're missing the point

It doesn't matter if microsoft or anybody else is reading this article.  The point is that the IPOD is far from ideal, and it needs stronger competition to force the whole product segment to improve.

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Guest (rjv)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

MiPod

Some observations
1. "And Microsoft lacks Apple's marketing savvy and cult following, especially among youth."
Apple has sold 40MM+ iPods. It is not because of a cult following
2. " Yet Microsoft has enjoyed a number of come-from-behind victories. "
Yes, but they were largely the result of using their monopoly status to force their product on people (thus that little anti-trust conviction).
3. "Keep It Simple."
Microsoft has never shown the ability to keep it simple. They have always prescribed to the 10+1 strategy. And the 1 is usually pretty bad.
4. "the iTunes Music Store, is far more confusing to navigate than true retail websites such as Amazon"
> 1 billion songs sold with that crappy ui!

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Guest (rjv)

  • 2044 Days Ago
  • 07/11/2006

MiPod contd

5. "Put Wireless Connectivity to Good Use"
I was not aware that wifi is that ubiqitous. This has the makings of another Tablet PC.
6. "Be Less Paranoid about Sharing"
That is a RIAA issue and less a retail issue. Maybe RIAA can break Apple's back by giving permission or MS will dole out cash at a loss to facilitate this. Unlikely.
I think this needs to better thought out. Merely wishing that MS take this market will not work

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Guest (Daniel Velázquez)

  • 2043 Days Ago
  • 07/12/2006

Wireless??

Windows based products are the best food for computer viruses, then you have to buy the antivirus for the PC where you store your files, antivirus for your MusicPlayer because some could hack it via Wi-Fi and of course Microsoft will sell that antivirus. And don't forget that you'll have to buy at least the last ServicePack in order to use it and you will have to use only Registered media files and all those annoying things that MS based products likes to do. And of course you can't do a better looking MusicPlayer than an iPod

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Guest (tim)

  • 2043 Days Ago
  • 07/12/2006

probably gonna download from the net with the wifi?  if you dont have the song you can buy it even if you're in the bathroom.

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Guest (Ideapreneur)

  • 2042 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2006

Weird thing

Most of these info are been tried by creative except for the Itunes. Maybe to beat Ipod, MS should just buy Apple.

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Guest (Podboy)

  • 2042 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2006

If Microsoft bought Apple

If Microsoft bought Apple the whole industry would stagnate. - Where would Microsoft copy its 'innovations' from then? - Linux? - LOL

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Guest (Dave)

  • 2042 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2006

Not gonna happen

Can you say anti-trust suit?

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Guest (Foncused?)

  • 2023 Days Ago
  • 08/01/2006

WHERE'S THE REST OF THE ARTICLE??

WHERE'S THE REST OF THE ARTICLE??

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Guest (Jay)

  • 2017 Days Ago
  • 08/07/2006

Battery life

Regardless of what manufacturers claim, Lion batteries lose capacity in use. At very least, they should follow the lead of some pocket camera makers and make them user replaceable.

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Guest (silviok)

  • 2016 Days Ago
  • 08/08/2006

Make it a platform

Microsoft has always won at the end because they make their products platforms on which other developers can add functionality. If they do that then 3rd party applications will make their player irresistable.
Apple neve really understood that.

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