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Friday, November 02, 2007

How to Organize the Web

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By Erica Naone

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IBM's Lotus Connections, a business product, includes a bookmarking system called Dogear that organizes information with the participation of a networked community. When a user bookmarks a site, up pop tags that other users have added to it, says product manager Suzanne Minassian. Dogear also shows how many others have bookmarked the same site and provides links that can lead users to those people. The result, Minassian says, is that users can find people with shared interests and connect to those people through the system.

Listas's developers are still working on increasing community involvement with the site, Flake says. "With all community sites, there's a bit of a chicken-and-egg dilemma," he says, noting that a strong community attracts more community activity. Live Labs' technology previews are meant to be even more raw than most products' early releases, Daley says, and are very much works in progress. "We try to release early and release often," he says. As a result, many changes to Listas are on the way.

Some of those changes will be aimed at increasing the usability of the interface. For instance, using the toolbar to clip information could be a more streamlined process. Other changes will advance the philosophy of the service, such as Flake's plan to change the way comments are structured. With most of today's blogs, Flake says, if you post a comment, that information no longer belongs to you: you often can't edit it or delete it, and it's hosted on someone else's page. Flake says that he plans to give Listas a system that structures comments as simply another list--one belonging to the person posting the comments.

If Listas does well, Microsoft may integrate it with products or develop it as a product, but for now, the researchers say, there is no effort to make it profitable. "Listas is at the beginning of the experiment," Daley says.

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  • Listas vs. Others
    tam on 11/02/2007 at 1:32 PM
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    How does Listas differ in purpose from other programs--for example Google Notebooks, which seems to do pretty much the same thing?  Or for that matter Microsoft's own OneNote, which is not online but does permit sharing?
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    • Re: Listas vs. Others
      daleyalex on 11/02/2007 at 5:55 PM
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      Listas differs from those particular applications in a number of subtle ways, but the primary difference is the social community. 

      Becuase of the community elements and the fact that Listas is not vertical specific, the graph develops to show trends in things like bookmarks, as well as what kinds of domains items are clipped from, what search terms are frequently saved, what primary content developed on the site is most popular and much more. 

      So, Listas is more about a tool that is both productive and social in a simple and useful way.
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      • Re: Listas vs. Others
        grogers on 11/03/2007 at 11:44 PM
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        The lists concept is not new.

        A "beneath the radar" startup called MyProps.org (http://www.myprops.org) has already done a killer job implementing "lists" (they call them "channels") - channels are user created, can be about any topic, and either public or private.
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      • Re: Listas vs. Others
        conway on 11/05/2007 at 12:47 AM
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        Listas is interesting.  It addresses a problem caused by the proliferation of useful websites – how to keep track of everything (that’s useful to you).

        We recently launched Xerpi.com with a similar goal – to make the internet personally relevant.

        Our approach is less free form than Listas.  We focus on bookmarks.  Storing is like other sites but organization users more intuitive drag and drop features.  Sharing is done many ways but the most unique is by creating communities of links. 

        One way relevancy is achieved is by connecting like minded individuals as defined by their favorites.  This creates social connections like Listas that is missing in other productivity type sites. 

        A big difference in our approach to these connections is that the actual ‘physical’ connections are done by leveraging other social networking sites such as LinkedIn and Facebook. Rather than create another network we wanted to identify connections via bookmarks inside current networks or even across current networks, i.e. connect a LinkedIn user to a Facebook user. 

        It’s great to see others working on this similar problem.  I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.
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        • Re: Listas vs. Others; Xerpi= Best
          mollymeghanmiller on 02/20/2008 at 3:31 PM
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          Great point, Conway.
          I am a Xerpi user, and I really appreciate it's organic layout. Unlike most of the competitors, it isn't in a list (or linear) form. Xerpi is a great tool for managing my favorites, and also finding new interesting sites through the public views and through my social network- the friend blocks that I have set up on new tabs. The two navigation tools are pretty efficient too- I like the post0to Xerpi because it eliminates excess clicks while surfing.
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