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Europe's Robotic Challenge

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By Duncan Graham-Rowe

Friday, April 14, 2006

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Besides the challenging nature of these complex tasks, the way in which contestants will be given their routes has also prompted some people to suggest that the European version will actually be more difficult than the U.S. Grand Challenge. In the United States, contestants are given a series of global positioning waypoints -- like GPS breadcrumbs -- leading them along the route. In the European event the only information teams will be given is an aerial image of the terrain with a route roughly sketched out.

This makes all the difference, says Roland Siegwart, whose team at the Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne in Switzerland is submitting an adapted Daimler-Chrysler Smart Car in the non-urban trial. In the Grand Challenge the task was more about travelling between GPS waypoints in as straight a line as possible, with some minor obstacle manoeuvres, he says. The European contestants have more freedom to plan their routes and use their sensors to map the environment for the safest or most efficient path.

But not everyone is convinced that the European version is harder. "The Grand Challenge was an amazing endurance test," says Sebastian Thrun, who led the Stanford University team that won the Grand Challenge last October. In comparison, the European trials are extremely short, he notes, so that it is difficult to make a straight comparison.

The fact that European entrants do not have to be autonomous -- semi-autonomous and even remotely operated vehicles can also be entered -- may also lead some robot purists to favor the Grand Challenge. "From my point of view, a robot should be fully autonomous," says Siegwart. But, for military purposes, robots often have a human in the loop, he adds, such is with unmanned aerial vehicles.

One way to settle this debate might have been to enter "Stanley," the Stanford winner from last year's Grand Challenge -- but this isn't going to happen. "I tried to participate but was denied access," says Thrun. Being a native-born German now holding dual U.S. citizenship, in theory, Thrun should have been able to participate, since the rules only state that one must be a European citizen in order to qualify.

Comments

  • Will it cause much interest?
    I have observed the US DARPA's Grand Challenge for the last two year and seen it catches much interest not only in US but globally. The EU version seems quite restrictive and puts too much burden on the robots. I wonder how far to the goal the robots can go and whether the event will encourage its participants as well as observers worldwide.
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    Guest (Quoc Anh)
    04/14/2006
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    • Premature comment
      Your remarks seem unfair and premature since it's the first European non-competition of it's kind. In fact it's not even a competition - just a trial. And on the subject of generating worldwide interest - that would hardly seem to be the point. The German MoD is organizing the event to give the participants a chance to challenge themselves. If the military show interest - there could be funding in the future.
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      Guest (Andrew)
      04/15/2006
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    • Interest YES
      I think they will have technical breakthroughs to show and teach new tricks to the Robot community - lets pray such events continue on our globe giving encouragement to our young scientists. It is a productive exercise - more trials are always welcome.
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      Guest (Bibi Kaur)
      04/21/2006
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  • Do It One Better
    Is it a challenge between our two nations? I was highly interested in the different ways in which we are testing our robotic technologies. It really does interest me a lot. DARPA had a very good purpose and seems as though the short term goals were met. And now a competitiion like this is amazing. And it damn well better be harder. This is 2006. We need to be getting smarter not slower.
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    Guest (J)
    04/14/2006
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    • Do It One Better???
      J, it's not between two nations - Europe is NOT a nation.
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      Guest (Andrew)
      04/15/2006
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  • Poor Thrun…
    That’s really not fair!

    I mean HE is the winner of the DARPA GC, so why could they have denied the participation?

    When he is a German citizen (at least his car is German I believe) and the money that helped his team winning is coming from Volkswagen: Where is the problem?

    I wonder why the journalist did not ask the organiser or the Chief Judge about it?
    Would have been a good opportunity to clear things up, wouldn’t it?

    --Michel
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    Guest (Michel)
    04/16/2006
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    • Poor Thrun
      I think there was a misconception about admittance and Thrun could well have participated but misunderstood he couldn't.
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      Guest (Hieronymus)
      05/14/2006
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  • Counter-productive
    "...the European organizers stress that their event is not so much a competition as an evaluation of existing technology. 'The objective here is more an assessment of where the technology is today,' says Henrik Christensen, chairman of the European Robotics Network..."

    If they're really interested, then why exclude Thrun?  Even if they thought he'd blow everyone out of the water with his abilities, why not make him an advisor for all teams?

    Sounds like they aren't really interested in finding anything.  I guess they get to play with radio controlled toys for a while.
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