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The Truth about Recharging Electric Vehicles

You'll be able to plug in anywhere, but without a special connector, you'll wait forever to recharge.

Kevin Bullis 07/13/2010

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One of the key selling points used by supporters of battery-powered electric vehicles, as opposed to say, hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, is that the infrastructure for delivering electricity already exists. This argument is a little misleading, though. Sure, there are outlets all over the place (although not along the street for apartment dwellers--but let's leave that aside for now). But if you want to use the full range of your electric car, it could take over a day to recharge using a standard 110-volt power outlet.

The point was driven home Monday in an article in The Wall Street Journal, which described Nissan's efforts to break through bureaucracy to make it easier for homeowners to get special electric vehicle charging stations installed. Nissan, which is coming out with an electric vehicle this year called the Leaf, is concerned that customers will be put off from buying the car by the 20 hours required to recharge it from a standard outlet to get its full 100-mile range. Currently, it can take weeks for cities to issue the necessary permits for a fast charger that can cut recharging time to eight hours, the article said, and the price for the special charger, including installation, will range from about $1,200 (with a tax credit) to several thousand dollars if a electric panel upgrade is needed.

Tesla Motors, the small automaker that went public last month to much fanfare, advertises a less than four-hour charging time for its Roadster, even though the car has a much longer range than the Leaf--245 miles per charge. But that's with a special "Home Connector" that costs about $2,000. Also, depending on the amperage of the circuit, charging could take up to six hours. Using a standard outlet for a full charge will require 37 to 48 hours, depending on whether it's connected to a 15 or 20 amp circuit. The good news is Tesla will sell a kit ($1,500) with a wide variety of adapters that will allow enterprising car owners to plug into a motel's air conditioner outlet (14.5 hours for a full charge), a dryer outlet (10 hours) or, if one is handy, an outlet for an electrical welder or RV (six hours).

The Chevrolet Volt, a plug-in hybrid coming out this year, only takes 10 hours to fully recharge with a standard outlet, but that's because it only has an electric range of 40 miles.

Most people actually won't need to use more than 40 miles of electric range in a day--that's less than the average daily drive in the United States. But potential electric car buyers may flinch knowing that they'll have to keep their car plugged in every moment it's not being driven in order to access the full range--or go through the hassle and expense of installing a special charger. This won't stop early adopters, but it could put off mainstream acceptance. So it could take even longer for them to catch on than hybrid vehicles, which after a decade still account for less than 3 percent of new car sales in the United States. Cities that want to promote electric vehicles should work with dealers to make installing fast-chargers both fast and cheap.

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lfisher

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  • 574 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2010

It's not just a special connector

What you're talking about without getting too technical are Level 2 charging stations, which will be connected to the 220-V lines already in place in many homes and facilities.
Also, you fail to consider out-of-home charge points, like those that will be installed at malls and other places of business, as well as, eventually, recharging stations that will be much like gas stations are now, which should address electric vehicle owners' "range anxiety." The growth of charging stations is documented and forecast in ABI Research's study of the Plug-In Vehicle Infrastructure (http://bit.ly/aROxAc)
And if you want to talk about "special connectors," you should talk to Tesla, since they launched their vehicle in advance of the rest of the industry setting a standard for charging connections. Some, if not all, Tesla vehicles will require "special connectors" to plug into non-Tesla charge points.

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liveoilfree

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  • 572 Days Ago
  • 07/15/2010

Bad article, bad comments

(sigh).  MIT has fallen from its previous tech level, it seems.

Let's look at the numbers (which Mr. Bullis didn't):

A 30-amp 120v circuit delivers 3.6 kW, or 3.6 kWh per hour.

Charging for 10 hours gives 36 kWh, or enough to go up to 216 miles in an EV1 or Tesla (up to 6 miles per kWh, the VOLT-hoax only has 8 kWh useable, at 5 miles per kWh).

That's why most Tesla owners find themselves using the 120 charger, and eschewing the 240v 70A fast charger (17 kW).

But don't confine yourself to these facts!

ALL homes now have 3 wires -- wired for 240 volts.

All you need is a plug to access up to 12 kW at 50 Amps, at any home that has a drier outlet; if you bother to install a $5 14/50, it's even easier.  I submit to you the FACTS:  12 kW for 2 hours gives over 20 kWh, enough for average day driving of 80 miles.  For 4 hours of charging, gives enough for 160 miles of driving.

But more facts: why fast-charge your car and then let it sit??? 

This is the common illusion of the ignoratti.  The average auto sits around, unused, for 23 hours per day, most of those are 12 hours at night.  Why not charge slowly at night??  This helps the utilities, which have to shut down generators as demand falls at night.

Electric cars, if you had bothered to ASK folks who actually drive them, are best charged up overnight, at slow charge rate, to help the utilities; it's paid for by excess daytime production from the rooftop solar system (that's paid for by money NOT spent on gasoline).

Now think about it.  40 kWh means you can drive even the heavy, 5-passenger SUV RAV4-EV 160 miles on a charge; I suppose if you need to drive more than 160 miles per day in L.A., you probably should get another job.

For commuting, 120 miles range is MORE than enough, and it's no mystery, those driving RAV4-EV (or EV1, before GM crushed them, or HOndaEV, before Honda crushed them) could have told you.

If you had bothered to investigate.

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Shootist

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  • 07/13/2010

Nominal voltage

I contend that North America does not have sufficient generating capacity to support battery powered cars.

In 1960 the nominal voltage delivered to the U.S. home was 125/250V, today the nominal voltage is 108/215V. Construction of additional generating capacity has not kept up with demand.

Fairie dust and unicorn farts will not this country power.

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Bob Wallace

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We've go the power...

There have been a couple of major studies which found that we have more power than we need for charging EVs/PHEVs during off peak hours.

And as we add electrics to our transportation system we will continue to install wind turbines which tend to kick out extra power at night when we'll be charging.

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Shootist

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  • 07/14/2010

Re: We've go the power...

wind power. Gad.

That any sane society would power itself with something as indeterminate as wind and solar is beyond describing.

Nukes lad, and lots of 'em. And if NAZI Germany can make 140 octane aviation gasoline out of King Coal, I suspect we can produce 85 octane automobile fuel as well.

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liveoilfree

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  • 07/15/2010

Re: Nominal voltage

shootist, you're just plain WRONG on the facts.  Look at the usage curve on caiso.com, it displays the fact that usage in California falls to about 22,000 megaWatts at night from at most 40,000 megaWatts in the daytime, even in the high usage summer peak.

Now, exercise the math:  if they didn't shut those generators down, there would be 18,000 mWh per hour available for EV charging.

That's a lot, considering there's less than 3000 EVs now, and less than 30,000 planned.

Multiply 18,000 mWh (18,000,000 kWh) times 4 miles per kWh and you get 72,000,000 miles of EV driving from just one hour of unused grid capacity.

Now if each EV drives our national average of 20 miles per day, that's enough spare energy to support 3,600,000 EVs for just one hour of unused energy in California alone.  It'll be a long time before Big Oil allows even 36,000 EVs in all the USA.

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bildan

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Charging sites

A fair description of the current state of affairs.

I think, however, the battery EV people already know this and realize significant infrastructure modifications will be needed.  The slow uptake of electric vehicles over a period of decades, will permit this to happen in an efficient way.

Even today, many could use an electric "city car" for the majority of their driving using a residential "clothes dryer" 220V outlet to charge it.  Those city cars would have a significant impact on oil imports.

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Bob Wallace

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  • 07/15/2010

Re: Charging sites

The Nissan LEAF can be fully charged using a 120vac outlet in 20 hours.  That's a 100 mile charge.

The average commute is under 20 miles RT.  Topping up from a 20 mile drive would take only a few hours.

An awful lot of people would have no trouble keeping their batteries charged using the same outlet that they use for their vacuum cleaner or weed whacker.  Almost all garages already have a 120vac outlet and modern homes are required to have some exterior 120vac outlets (at least in CA).

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Handshake

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  • 07/13/2010

20 s recharge

Without a simple way to recharge a car in 30 second, this "Eco" car is damned.

The single alternative to "recharging" is a simple "re-changing" of batteries.

Now, if you want to refill, you just simply refill.
In the future the same process must be followed: Just remove your car batteries, take another set of refilled batteries from the "gas station" and put them in your "tank". Those left behind will be refilled by the "gas station" and sold again in X hours...

My idea of "future batteries" is a large number of "small sphere" that will be "dropped" in the tank (like oil) and removed when you need a refill.
After you remove them, "gas station" will recharge them and... the process will be repeated... forever...and ever...again...

Or a "flexible" batteries like a tape that will be easy to add and remove.

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Guest (DougF111)

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  • 07/13/2010

Re: 20 s recharge

I call BS.  It takes up to 15min to "recharge" my SUV, depending on the gas station's pressure, sometimes longer.  There is no need for a 30sec requirement as most people are quite willing to take a few minutes to clean windows, hit the bathroom, get some food/drink, check oil, etc, before hitting the road again.  In the case of families, we often took 30min breaks at either rest stops or gas stations (if it looked O.K.) to let the kids burn off energy for the next segment when we were traveling.

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dcard88

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  • 570 Days Ago
  • 07/17/2010

Re: 20 s recharge

Did anyone mention the idea that every Denney's/Coco's/etc in America could install a couple of fast charge stations which would easily pay for themselves in less than a year.

I have 4 50 amp 220's in my garage so I am ready.

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Archie

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  • 568 Days Ago
  • 07/19/2010

Re: 20 s recharge

You need to visit this Israel company
http://australia.betterplace.com/global-progress-north-america-california

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Bob Wallace

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  • 07/13/2010

Rapid charge points...

Ever drive Interstate 5 when it first opened?  I5 ran through areas where there were no small towns and service stations.  Special effort had to be made to establish filling stations every 35 miles or so (and install a lot of warning signs).  For the early months/couple of years the federal government paid supplements to these stations to keep them from loosing money while traffic built to a sustainable level.

In the same manner Nissan is creating some "electric corridors" between selected cities and installing rapid charge points to that driving between those cities with a 100 mile range EV becomes feasible.

The LEAF can be fully charged overnight (8 hours) from a 220volt outlet.  "Waiting weeks" for a permit might be a problem is some locations, but did you have to stretch to find a negative?

Once the process of switching to EVs is underway you can bet that that permitting process will be streamlined.

You can also bet that we will start to see outlets installed at sidewalk parking places, at workplaces, and in parking lots.

Ever think what it must have been like for the first gas car owners?  Drive into a new town and start asking around to see who had some fuel.  Look them up and get them to dip some gas out of the barrel and pour it into your tank.  Manually operated gas pumps came later.

We'll build the infrastructure as it is needed.  It's not like we need to clear large lots, dig big holes in the ground to bury tanks, install pumps and safety gear. 

For most of us it's nothing more than getting a dryer outlet installed in our garage.  And that doesn't stop people from buying clothes dryers.

Rapid charge points?  Look for them coming to your local chain food restaurants.  Need a 50% topup on your LEAF?  Takes 30 minutes to add another 50 miles so that you can make it home after shopping.  McJack will be glad to have you drop in for a half hour while you charge.

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bgfraley

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  • 574 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2010

Re: Rapid charge points...

Your take on this is interesting. In my mind it kills the debate about electric vehicles being anything other than short-distance commuter vehicles. If the Leaf could go 100 miles, how many major cities exist in the US that are less than 100 miles apart? Not many. Taking a trip in an electric vehicle would be a nightmare to have to triple the trip time to charge the battery. I think the folks at GM have thought this through by range extending the Volt to go more than 300 miles. To go further, all one would need to do is stop at a gas station and fill up the tank. There is no change in infrastructure necessary. The fact that Nissan has talked the government into spending money on recharging stations sounds like no one has though about whether anyone would be willing to stop for 4-8 hours just to recharge their car. What a waste of money.

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Bob Wallace

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  • 573 Days Ago
  • 07/14/2010

Re: Rapid charge points...

"If the Leaf could go 100 miles, how many major cities exist in the US that are less than 100 miles apart? Not many. Taking a trip in an electric vehicle would be a nightmare to have to triple the trip time to charge the battery."

Remember that these are the EV "Model Ts".  And the Model T could not drive up a steep hill, it had to go up backwards because it had no fuel pump and it needed to keep its tank higher than its engine.  As batteries improve we'll move on to the Model A and then on to even better EVs.

BYD (very major Chinese battery manufacturer and now car manufacturer) has a 200 mile range EV which they are now making.  The Tesla Roadster gets over 200 miles as does the new Range Rover 4WD SUV.  The Tesla Model S is going to have a 300 mile range.  (And Range Rover claims 1-3 hours for a complete charge.  And 300,000/13 year battery lifetime.)

The LEAF will not be the car for anyone who frequently takes long trips.  But it will be great for many two car families, for people who don't drive long distances but take the plane/train and for those who take only the occasional long trip there's always the rental option. 

"I think the folks at GM have thought this through by range extending the Volt to go more than 300 miles."

Sure.  If your driving style includes taking frequent trips longer than 200 miles RT then a PHEV is more functional than the LEAF.  The Volt would be ideal for someone who lives within 20 miles or so during the week but goes "home" on weekends and home is a couple/few hundred miles away.

"The fact that Nissan has talked the government into spending money on recharging stations sounds like no one has though about whether anyone would be willing to stop for 4-8 hours just to recharge their car. What a waste of money."

First, Nissan is paying for the rapid recharge stations.  Not the government. 

Second, the LEAF will accept a 80% recharge in 30 minutes.  That means that if you wanted to take a drive to a town 250 miles away you would have to make two half hour stops to charge.  Most could bear that burden if it happened only once or twice a year.  You'd probably stop once to eat and once to pee anyway.  It would add a few minutes to your trip, not triple the time.

If you needed to go further/more frequently then get a PHEV, rent a car, use public transportation.

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Bob Wallace

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  • 07/14/2010

Rapid, rapid charge points...

A company called "JFE Engineering" claims to have developed a quick charger that can provide a 50% charge in three minutes and a 70% charge in five minutes.

Start with a 200 mile EV.  Stop after 200 for five minutes and drive another 140.  Stop another five minutes and drive a second 140.  That's about all the driving I want to do in a day....

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bgfraley

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  • 574 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2010

Range Extended Vehicles

While this article focuses on the logistics of recharging electric vehicles, there are several areas where the discussion would be helped by improved detail.

Even though the Chevy Volt has an electric range of 40 miles, it has an on-board gasoline generator to extend the range beyond 300 miles. The Tesla and Nissan offerings will not have on-board generators, thus their ranges will not be extended.

The discussion describes the Chevy Volt as if it were a different type of vehicle, altogether different from the Tesla or Nissan offerings. The Nissan Leaf, Tesla Roadster, and Chevy Volt all share the same type of drive system where the wheels are driven primarily by electric drive, not gasoline. In contrast, mixed-mode "hybrids" like the Prius or the Ford Escape, a gasoline engine may also be employed to drive the wheels.

Finally, the discussion about recharging batteries overstates the inadequacy of the infrastructure needs. For example, consider the Nissan Leaf's specified range of 100 miles. Since lithium-ion batteries are used, in order to keep functioning optimally the battery should not be allowed to drop below 40%. Thus the effective range is 60 miles. Similarly for the Tesla Roadster, given a specified range of 245 miles the effective range becomes 147 miles. In order to help the batteries last as long as possible, most consumers will want to charge their cars frequently, keeping the batteries fully charged. The Volt is the only one that won't allow the consumer to knowingly damage the battery by letting the charge drop below 40%.

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Gurthang

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  • 07/14/2010

Re: Range Extended Vehicles

Though I agree battery numbers can be misleading. Most of these manfacurers give design ranges for the battery packs and not maximum range based on total battery capicity.  This is because every pack is differient, varies with temp, etc And most have very conservitive battery management systems so as to maximize pack lifespan. (No overcharging or draining beyond some voltage range depending on the pack chemistry.) So the range given is likely the absolute minimum you can expect. (Depending on your driving style as always.)

Personally I prefer the concept of standardized battery pack modules each with their own internal electronics for lifecycle managment, identification, and charge/discharge control. Design them for maximum lifespan and when you "fill up" just pay for whatever wear and whatever energy differience there is between the old and new packs. Do that and barring some amazing breakthrough that requires a complete design rethink each pack's internal electronics can hide the underlying chemistry thus making "upgrades" or even mixing tech much easier as it advances.

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Bob Wallace

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  • 07/14/2010

Re: Range Extended Vehicles

All EVs and PHEVs set limits on how low their batteries are allowed to discharge in order to protect battery life.

Forty miles for the Volt, 100 for the LEAF, 245 for the Tesla Roadster, 300 for the Tesla S - those are the ranges available before the "40%" limit is reached.

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Tysto

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  • 574 Days Ago
  • 07/13/2010

This just in from 1902

Dearborn, Mich. — Experts say the lack of gasoline dispensaries in strategic locations along America's roadways may severely limit the popularity of vehicles such as the motor car that run on said gasoline.

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GaryB

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  • 07/13/2010

Re: This just in from 1902

I agree. This charging business and generating capacity are just unsolvable problems. We should drop all development of electrical vehicles now since wiring up a new outlet could take over a half hour or so.

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Bob Wallace

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  • 07/14/2010

Full disclosure...

This public service announcement brought to you by United Harness Makers of America.

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z0rr0

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Re: This just in from 1902

True, but..
A horse cart traveled at about 10mph, and perhaps could do 100 miles a day. The horseless buggy was a game changer in customer expectations. These electric versions offer nothing new in performance, except the potential for domestic generation of the juice (at a higher price?).
So the public's reception, with it the market forces, may not be directly analogous.

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Bob Wallace

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  • 07/15/2010

Now we take you back to 2010

"These electric versions offer nothing new in performance, except the potential for domestic generation of the juice (at a higher price?)."

Typical power requirement of an EV ~0.3 kWh.
Average cost of electricity in the US $0.105/kWh.
EV fuel cost per mile $0.03

Average MPG 2010 US cars 30
Current cost of gasoline $3
ICE fuel cost per mile $0.10

ICE fuel cost per mile when gas rises to $6/gallon $0.20

Future cost of EV fuel when smart meters and time of use price kicks in <$0.03/mile

Places like Texas and Spain which have built a lot of wind farms are already seeing their utility bills dropping.  And all of us will see our nighttime kWh cost drop when time of use billing starts.


"So the public's reception, with it the market forces, may not be directly analogous."

Think about what it would be like to drive an EV while you're standing at the pump during heat waves, driving rains, and winter storms.  And while you're getting your oil changed.  Even when you're paying for tuneups and those more frequent brake repairs.

You could have an induction plate charger right under where you park your EV and all you would have to do to 'fill your tank' is to park.

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tomgarven

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  • 07/14/2010

Different Cost Across America

I lived in California for about 30 years before retiring to Arizona.  Left the state about 10 years ago but still have relatives there. 

When I did live there I did do a room addition, installed a new electrical panel and had it all inspected with no findings.  Electrical work is really not that difficult.  

What I get a kick out of is the HUGH difference in costs between some states and where I live now.  If you are waiting for weeks for an electrician, we have several hundred here in Arizona looking for work - just tell me where you want them to show up.

I recently had a licensed electrician replace my 100 Amp panel with a new 200 Amp panel.  All permits, parts and labor were less than $800.00 and I didn't lift a finger.

I guess a lot of other states have sure changed.
Tom G.   

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Bob Wallace

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Re: Different Cost Across America

"Currently, it can take weeks for cities to issue the necessary permits for a fast charger that can cut recharging time to eight hours, the article said, and the price for the special charger, including installation, will range from about $1,200 (with a tax credit) to several thousand dollars if a electric panel upgrade is needed."

I think your $800 is much closer to the truth than is "the article". 

And you had to spend $800 because you had only a 100 amp service and had to upgrade to a 200 amp service.  Many new homes are now built with 200 amp service boxes/feeds.

If you've got a 200 amp service you're talking only a new breaker and some 12/2.  Dollars, not hundreds or thousands.

There's probably some sort of 'smart charger' that tapers the charge as the batteries fill up, but that might be built into the vehicle.  (We're not talking large dollars for smart chargers.)

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tomgarven

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Re: Different Cost Across America

So true Bob.  It seems that most of the homes built after 1985 in my community have 200 Amp panels.  Just so happens mine was built in 1982. 

I did exactly as you suggested, bought a two pole 240 volt breaker, wire, box, outlet, conduit and did a 30 Amp circuit in my garage.  If I remember correctly the total cost at the Home Depot for materials was about $78.00.  The new circuit will come in handy when [someday, LOL] I can afford that new electric car I want.

Tom G.   

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paulfmeyer

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  • 573 Days Ago
  • 07/14/2010

Regulatory Hurdles

Clearly, any home with an electric dryer can re-charge most EV's.  What's needed is some basic universal standards so state and local building codes stop making a hash of this.

Ever try to apply for a permit you don't actually need?  It's harder than you might think.

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andrewpaterson

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  • 07/14/2010

No Plugs Needed

See http://www.pluglesspower.com/  They are one of at  least three companies (and probably many more) that are developing 'wireless' induction parking places that will charge your vehicle without you having to do anything (except probably pay for it).
Will strop centers add charging parking places alongside the handicapped spaces? Will you want one in your garage?

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Bob Wallace

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Re: No Plugs Needed

The Range Rover Liberty offers induction plate charging.  And a 200 mile range.  (But an incredibly high price.)

With induction plate charging just drive into your garage at night and the next morning your car is fully charged and ready to go.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7879096/Electric-4x4-to-go-into-production.html

Once the EV market gets going look for specialized companies that do nothing but install charging systems.  They'll do an initial site inspection and get your basic info.  And then they'll show up with permits in hand and install your charging system in a few hours. 

Expect special charging parking spots in shopping centers and at restaurants.  No reason why the EV can't communicate with the charging system to deal with the 'how much to charge' and 'where to send the bill' stuff.  And in order to keep those parking spaces available the owner's cell could be called to let them know that their car is charged and they have fifteen minutes to move it or start paying a parking fee.

Sure, there will be some rough edges as we make the transition away from oil, but they will get rounded off along the way.

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CrowSan

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  • 572 Days Ago
  • 07/15/2010

Rapid Electric car charging

One idea I saw (which I thoughwas a good one) was that the owner of the car would not be the one to charge the battery. Instead you would drive to a filling station which would then "pop out" the old battery and replace it with a fully charged one. The battery removed from the car would be charged overnight by the station and used to replace an empty one in a car the next day.
This approach has some drawbacks (who owns the battery? etc). But I thought it was a good one and certainly gets around the long recharge time for some electric vehicles (and keeps filling stations alive too).

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Bob Wallace

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  • 07/15/2010

Congratulate yourself...

You had an idea which has already been proven and is being implemented.

A company called Better Place has a swap station that you drive into, not unlike a car wash, and your battery gets exchanged for a new one in less than five minutes.  Renault/Nissan is building cars for them. 

(There's a good video on Utube.)

They are going big with this system in Israel and one Northern European country (Denmark?).

I think Better Place will own the batteries and the user will pay by the mile. 

In the long run I doubt that we will see this system survive.  Batteries will improve (more range) and charge times drop (less plug-in time).

We're likely to see places to charge become common where we work, shop and eat.  And if induction plate charging works out just parking will be all it takes to charge.

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