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A Reality Check for Carbon Capture

An exciting process thought to be the core of a new company still needs a lot of work.

Kevin Bullis 05/07/2009

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There's been some speculation online recently about a new company called C12 Energy that's received $4.5 million from Sequoia Capital. The president of the company is Kurt Zenz House, who, as a PhD candidate at Harvard, worked out the details of a plan to sequester carbon dioxide from the atmosphere by speeding up natural processes. These processes could counteract global warming on their own, although they'd take a long time--about 100,000 years--to do it. (The process has kept the temperature on Earth, over its long history, within a narrow band, even as the brightness of the sun has changed significantly, he says.) House's idea is to hurry the process along using electrolysis. He published the idea in the fall of 2007, and he's applied for a patent on the idea.

This has led to speculation that the company, which is known to be involved in carbon dioxide sequestration, was founded to commercialize this particular technology. This is something that House will not confirm, although he continues to be excited about his work at Harvard, which he's continuing now as a research fellow (PDF) at MIT.

But this likely isn't what C12 Energy is up to. The process faces some large obstacles to becoming a practical way to sequester significant amounts of carbon dioxide. For example, the amount of seawater that would need to be electrolytically treated would be huge--on the order of 6,000 cubic meters per second if it were to offset 15 percent of global emissions. This sort of volume is conceivable for some processes, but electrolysis is expensive. What's more, the process would be very energy intensive and produce ozone-destroying compounds. But ultimately, the problem is that more cost-effective ways to sequester carbon dioxide already exist.

House says that these challenges could be overcome. He proposes selling by-products of the process for use in manufacturing PVC piping or cement. But David Keith, the director of the Energy and Environmental Systems Group at the University of Calgary, says that schemes relying on the sale of by-products will be hard to deploy at large scales because the markets for these products quickly become saturated.

This isn't to say that the process doesn't work--it does, Keith says. It's just expensive and uses a lot of energy. "The energy cost is just deadly," he says. There might be technical fixes to these issues, and it's exciting that House is continuing to work on it. But for now, at least, it seems like an idea better suited to the lab than to a commercial enterprise.

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erbium

340 Comments

  • 1014 Days Ago
  • 05/07/2009

Well them make some more markets

Carbon is the backbone of plastics, wood via cellulose chains.  Carbon fibers are used to build planes, bicycles, and probably soon cars.

Lets make carbon fiber girders for buildings then uses would be infinite and sequester it above ground.

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javs

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  • 05/07/2009

Is Unsolved Carbon Waste Disposal a Barrier?

Kevin,

Carbon sequestration has now a big issue right in front of it. I just retweeted in http://twitter.com/gmh_upsa the post The Unsolved Problems of Long-Term Coal Waste Disposal, by Bill Sweet in IEEE Spectrum's Energy Wise Blog, that starts with:

"One doesn’t want to make overly direct and invidious comparisons between coal-generated and nuclear-generated electricity, for fear of being called a vulgar environmentalist. But it’s hard not to wonder, sometimes, why such a fuss is being made about hypothetical dangers that nuclear wastes could pose 100,000 years from now, when coal wastes are wreaking havoc right now, right before our eyes."

Looking carefully at the word unsolved, Do you think this will affect carbon sequestration's venture capital attraction or that is just an administrative issue?

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Kevin Bullis

178 Comments

  • 1013 Days Ago
  • 05/08/2009

Re: Is Unsolved Carbon Waste Disposal a Barrier?

I'm not sure I completely understand your question.  That blog was talking about the toxic sludge waste from burning coal, not carbon dioxide.
Could you clarify?

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javs

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  • 05/08/2009

Re: Is Unsolved Carbon Waste Disposal a Barrier?

I know that carbon toxic wastes (i.e. mercury) is the new risk apparently unsolved. My question is if this new risk might be seen by venture capital firms as a potential barrier to fund carbon sequestration.

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Flip

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  • 05/12/2009

CCS Tech

The problem with most CCS concepts is that they fail to appreciate the scale of capture needed to have a significant impact on global climate change and/or have excessive energy requirements. I would like to see this concept described in terms of energy and mass balances and the number of facilities required at scale.
I have developed a concept that solves these problems more efficiently than any other I have seen. I am looking for engineers and environmental project managers for a startup venture developing this technology. Please see the group: Rubian Systems on Linked In for more information.

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americaspower

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  • 989 Days Ago
  • 06/01/2009

More than 300 CCS projects underway

I disagree. During the America’s Power Factuality Tour, we’ve been traveling around the country talking to the people who are behind the production of cleaner electricity from coal.

Currently, there are more than 300 clean coal research projects underway around the country – many of which are devoted to carbon capture and storage. In fact, we visited the Tenaska Energy headquarters in Omaha, Neb., where they’re working on two new facilities that capture and store carbon dioxide.

Hear Tenaska’s VP talk about these innovative projects and more at http://sn.im/factuality.

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