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The Underwhelming Solar Prius

The optional solar roof on Toyota's 2010 Prius may not provide a watt of mobility.

Peter Fairley 03/19/2009

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A solar roof will simply ventilate the 2010 Prius.

The solar roof that Toyota is offering as an option on its next-generation Prius hybrid sedan may be even less useful than expected, according to a report in the specialty publication EVWorld. The solar panels, reports EVWorld, will add not a microwatt of charge to drive the Prius.

Last summer, Technology Review looked at the potential impact of adding a solar roof to the Prius when rumors of Toyota's plans first emerged. The clear conclusion of the experts was this: keep solar panels on rooftops, where they can be tilted toward the sun for maximum efficiency. A solar rooftop would be just a "marketing gimmick," said Andrew Frank, a plug-in hybrid pioneer at the University of California, Davis, and chief technology officer for UC-Davis hybrid-vehicle spinoff Efficient Drivetrains.

Toyota, it turns out, won't even bother plugging its solar rooftop panel into the 2010 Prius's nickel-metal-hydride battery. EVWorld editor Bill Moore, citing a conversation with Akihiko Otsuka, chief engineer for the Prius redesign, writes that

Toyota tried it and apparently discovered that for not-entirely-well-understood reasons, connecting the PV panels to the battery turns them into an "antenna" of sorts, which at the very least seems to disrupt the car's radio.

So Toyota left it at that. The solar roof will simply help keep the car cool when it's parked by running a fan to ventilate the car. For the average driver, that could be somewhat useful for, say, half the year.

I spoke with Otsuka while reporting from the Geneva Motor Show earlier this month, and learned that Toyota engineers are targeting a range of 20 kilometers in the EV mode for the plug-in version of the Prius. The lithium-battery-equipped vehicle is to be offered to Toyota's fleet customers by the end of this year.

That would mark a boost over the 10-to-15-kilometer range offered by the nickel-metal-hydride-powered plug-in Prius that Toyota has been testing. But it remains just a third of the 60-kilometer range that GM is promising for its Chevy Volt plug-in hybrid, which is due out next year. GM's design has already set off a debate over the cost effectiveness and efficiency of carrying the battery capacity that such range requires.

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nekote

139 Comments

  • 1060 Days Ago
  • 03/20/2009

Rooftop PV on cars stupid

PV array(s) on car rooftops is stupid.

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Tysto

34 Comments

  • 1053 Days Ago
  • 03/27/2009

Re: Rooftop PV on cars stupid

Naw. This is something I've wanted on *every* car for years. You'll never get enough power to charge the battery, but there's plenty of power there to run a vent fan, making the car much more comfortable after sitting in a hot parking lot for a while.

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Luckenbach

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  • 1059 Days Ago
  • 03/21/2009

PV arrays on cars are smart

Electric cars are good, but they get charged from the power plants (mostly coal). Putting PV together with electric cars is perfect, no power plant needed, no transmission lines, battery storage is already in the car, simplifies everything. Renters who cannot put panels on their roofs, they can put them on their car.

Not just cars either, boats and planes too. While most solar cars are special vehicles and expensive or have few amenities, times are changing fast.

Solar cars race across America, Australia, and other countries every year, and they are not slow. Solar boats have crossed the Pacific and Atlantic. A solar airplane has flown across America. Practical? The University of Central Florida has a solar powered car they drive 20 miles a day, and it has doors and windows, and windshied wipers, and even air conditioning! There are over 1,000 solar powered boats and ferries operating around the world.

PV's on cars are not perfect for everyone, but they are getting better fast.

See a growing list at Self Powered Electric Vehicles

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Tysto

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  • 1043 Days Ago
  • 04/06/2009

Re: PV arrays on cars are smart

Solar panels on a car will never be as efficient as solar panels in a stationary location, where they can be bigger and properly aimed at the sun. Electric outlets are practically everywhere. Power them with solar (and wind and tides); power the cars from the greener outlets.

But I still want a PV cell on my car roof to cool or heat it to take the edge off the weather.

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ganderc

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  • 1042 Days Ago
  • 04/07/2009

2010 Prius Brake Redesign

I read that they redesigned the braking systems for the 2010 Prius. That appears to be Toyota's response to the fact that the U.S. Generation 2 Prius (2004-2009) has had low-speed brake failures reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at 31 times the rate of such failures reported for the 2004-2009 Corolla, which of course has traditional brakes. Many of the Prius low speed brake failures were in low-speed city traffic, resulting in rear-end collisions without injury. It appears that the several computers that control the complex braking systems were too busy calculating the most efficient way to apply the brakes, and did not get around to actually applying them, until it was too late. Toyota never took responsibility for the problem, but the 2010 redesign indicates they were aware of it. Unfortunately, the NHTSA never initiated an investigation despite the extremely high rate of failures. The detailed failure reports ("complaints") are available to the public on the NHTSA website. The details are these: Through March 2009, 2004-2009 Prius has received 44 complaints of low speed brake failure. 2004-2009 Corolla has received 7 complaints of such failures. Given that about five times more Corollas than Prius were sold during 2004-2009, 44/(7/5) = 31 times the rate of brake failure for the Generation 2 Prius. Let's hope the 2010's brakes work!

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BrandonPaul

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  • 866 Days Ago
  • 09/30/2009

Well, toyota has gone to another level...They have really enhanced toyota parts in order for them to build their own hybrid cars..Nicely dine by toyota..I really appreciate the technology they are bringing to the auto industry..

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dzjon

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  • 703 Days Ago
  • 03/12/2010

prius solarroof

I have a prius with a solar roof, it doesn't work.
my toyotadealer (botman toyota holland) doesn't understand anything about solar cells. The vent opening goes after 10 minutes with the motor off in the solar vent position and then the fan does pffft and stops. After that this will be repeated.
no cool interior for me. The garage has no clue and wants the car when the sun  shines, they got the car in the winter on a bright sunny day.
al very frustrating how they handel it. When Toyota sells a car with a sun roof they must also have a test facilitie where they can test the system.

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