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Google to Offer Superfast Broadband to Homes

The experimental fiber network will deliver gigabit-per-second speeds to up to half a million homes.

Erica Naone 02/10/2010

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Google's expansion beyond software continues with plans to build an experimental fiber network, announced today on the Google blog. The company wrote:

We're planning to build and test ultra high-speed broadband networks in a small number of trial locations across the United States. We'll deliver Internet speeds more than 100 times faster than what most Americans have access to today with 1 gigabit per second, fiber-to-the-home connections. We plan to offer service at a competitive price to at least 50,000 and potentially up to 500,000 people.

The company is currently looking for responses from interested communities.

Google lists several reasons for the move, including enabling bandwidth-intensive apps, learning better ways to deploy high-speed Internet, and its desire to allow users to choose from multiple service providers.

It's a classic case of "what's good for the Internet is good for Google." But it also looks like Google wants to get more people addicted to what really high-speed Internet can do, thereby winning over more customers for Google's many online services. It's also possible that the company has software in its lab that requires this type of connection, and it's building itself a testbed.

Google's rhetoric around the new broadband offering also brings to mind its efforts in the mobile world to break up the link between specific mobile devices and specific service providers. It's in Google's interest for everyone to have access to the same hardware and infrastructure, and for service providers to compete on other features and services.

It'll be interesting to see how Internet service providers react to this news. Verizon, for one, has made huge investments into its FiOS product, which offers only 50 Mbps--nowhere close to the speeds Google is proposing.

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flared0ne

395 Comments

  • 733 Days Ago
  • 02/10/2010

Paradigm quake alarms going off all over

"So I hear the 800-pound gorilla is now asking for pie?" has serious implications of "pie for everyone!"

We just have to hope that they're serious -- it would be a colossal waste of credibility and momentum for them to publicly posit such a goal and then fumble it.

It IS interesting to imagine how such a thing might play out -- among other things realizing that the boundary effects (between "inside we HAVE bandwidth" and "outside, well -- ooops") are going to be truly obnoxious, at least until multiple enclaves are established and get some synergy going. I would also predict development of some heavy multi-threaded traffic plexer algorithms to un-bottle-neck those boundary conditions... plexer: not the word games, but rather short for multiplexer, leaning toward multi-pipe concentrator/compressor functions, bridging between one or more gigundo-bandwidth pipes on one side and many many many much slower pipes on the other side.

And all THAT says nothing at all about what might be IN the surprise package that warrants such a test bed. Kinda like enabling a small scale "Singularity", if you know what I mean...

Unfortunately, once the gorilla gets big enough that "significant shifts in position" involve measureable gravity waves, "do no evil" becomes a chaotic predictor function...

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carlhage

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  • 733 Days Ago
  • 02/10/2010

Hurry up and wait?

Maybe it's a good experiment-- a solution in search of a problem. Can Google find a problem that needs 1Gbps?

Maybe someone has a good counter-argument to my impression, but the concept that the speed limit is the "last mile" connection to a home doesn't make sense to me. It's like saying that building a freeway entrance everyone's driveway will cut commute times to almost nothing.

A 1Gb link means you can download a 3 hour 3D-HD Blue-Ray movie in a little over 3 minutes. What could a home user do with this bandwidth?

Jonathan Koomey published an energy analysis for music delivery via download or driving to buy CDs, and claims 7kWh/GB of network energy required (2008 figure). This seems too high to me, but I don't know of any other scientific estimate. Apply Koomey's analysis to DVD download vs Netflix or using a rental kiosk while at the grocery store, and the conclusion is reversed-- physical media uses less energy.

At some point after excluding fixed cost of routers and local connectivity (sort-of cheap), there is a cost/GB/mile to operate long distance fiber links, and is related to Koomey's internet energy use estimate. If 50,000 people started using 1Gb of bandwidth randomly across the US (or world), it would take a lot of long distance fiber. Broadband internet access is cheap only because almost everyone doesn't use much bandwidth. The people that use enough to where they would notice the difference between 10Mb and 50Mb are the ones that get kicked off because they create a problem for the carrier.

So what is the real cost in $/GB ($/GB/km) or Joules/GB for average internet traffic? How many kW does it take to operate a 1000km 1Gb link? (3MW seems unreasonable.)

The irony is that relatively small web pages often take a huge amount of time to load-- not because the net speed is slow, because the servers are inefficient. Yes, we can watch internet TV in real time, but why does 100KB of TV guide take 8-20 seconds to download? Try the Comcast web site. A 50KB page takes 5 seconds to load-- it doesn't matter if you have 256Kb or 50Mb. When I had high-speed cable, the DNS server was horribly slow.

At least Google's servers are fast-- that's why they are popular so have enough money to do such an experiment with 1G home access.

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gabrielg01

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  • 733 Days Ago
  • 02/10/2010

Re: Hurry up and wait? - Many applications.

To answer your question "What could a home user do with this bandwidth?"...I can already list some things I would like to have.

1) Gaming is the most obvious niche. HD 3D gaming would be nice.

2) High-definition webcams. Even the best webcams are around 2mbs, which makes for the choppy image we are accustomed to. It would be nice to have HD webcams, and pull the feed up on a wide-screen TV. The applications for this are many. You can envision multi-screen HD conference calls. You can also go into 3D webcams.

3) Connect to supercomputer clusters. The computing power of your desktop should not be defined by the hardware in your office. Say you want to have 100Gb of RAM?...You can have that by connecting to server farms.

4) Donate uncensored bandwidth to people in need.
Donate VPN connections and proxy servers to people who are behind "information iron curtains" (communist China, Cuba, islamist Iran etc.) Many Americans are already doing this, but obviously we are severely limited by the bandwidth. Now if I had a 'giga-connection' to share, that would be a game changer. Imagine a scenario, where 1 million Americans with giga-connections would provide VPNs for Chinese people. The Great Firewall would become utterly useless, and the communists mights as well start packing.


5) And don't be like Bill Gates who once said ""No one will need more than 637 kb of memory for a personal computer."

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anolophalic

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  • 732 Days Ago
  • 02/11/2010

Re: Hurry up and wait? - Many applications.

This has nothing to do with gaming or filesharing. Google are looking to upgrade the network for cloud computing by either remaking it themselves or shaming the existing providers into action. This is important to google because of their extensive investment in the cloud - chrome OS for instance. It's as simple as that - this initiave is all about symmetrical upload/download speeds for fast transfer bursts to & from the cloud.

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vmyev

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  • 732 Days Ago
  • 02/11/2010

Re: Hurry up and wait?

One application need made painfully obvious during the last week is video conferencing.  My Russian-born wife muses that the greatest power on the planet had to shut down its government for four days due to snowstorms - couldn't happen in Moscow!!  What a great opportunity to reduce commuting costs, save fuel, reduce greenhouse gases, and improve productivity of all employees by investing in telecommuting. 

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carlhage

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  • 732 Days Ago
  • 02/11/2010

Videoconferencing Data Rates

Those are all good applications for high-speed data links, but not close to the 1Gb/house proposed.

The HD video cameras have a data rate of 25Mbps (without fancy compression), so a 1Gb link is 40 times more than needed. 3D doesn't add much extra as the L and R images are similar and compress easily. A few people have 50Mb links, so could easily exchange high-action HD video, if they had the hardware and the middle of the net could handle it.

DVD data rates are 3-9Mb. But for video conferencing, talking heads compress well, so greater than traditional broadcast quality is possible with a basic 1.5Mb DSL. The reason videoconferencing quality is poor now is because of the camera, computer, or bottlenecks in the middle of the network, not the speed of your home connection.

For gaming, HD video rates would apply if rendering was done remotely, but usually the data rates are much less because games are based on animation models, so it's easy to compress by warping frame-to-frame. I suppose one could transmit uncompressed video, but mpeg and rendering hardware is much cheaper than burying fiber and transceivers.

For tightly coupled computer clusters, one quickly reaches the point where the cost of the supercomputer is less than the data links, so it's cheaper to duplicate the hardware and storage.

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flared0ne

395 Comments

  • 733 Days Ago
  • 02/10/2010

Just a couple of thoughts...

At what point does higher and higher bandwidth logically equate to having all your distributed servers (AND data storage) located at a single node?

Given the need for a meaningful residential "tap" into that data torrent (visualize "fire hydrant testing"), what kind of functional partitioning might evolve for the next generation of combination cable-modem+server devices? Predictive scheduling-and-storage? Some form of intelligent agents?

How do I find out what communities might be involved in these pilot rollouts?? I'm looking for meaningful employment and definitely willing to consider relocation...

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jacomo

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  • 733 Days Ago
  • 02/10/2010

Google new FIber Network Venture

The issue Google really needs to address here is not the Last Mile FIber connection to homes, but the Fiber feeds in what we will call the Middle Fiber mile that connects the local Service Providers Fiber based IP Core Networks to the Content/Apps Data Centers (Cloud) Centers.
What they may want to do here is provide the local Last Mile provider with a Guideline/Specs as to what they want in the Last Mile while they test and deploy a Middle Mile Fiber link to their data centers.
They tried to address this a few years back with their OpenEdge (Cache Server to the local Data Centers) program.

Jim A.
Service Provider

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