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Wednesday, November 04, 2009

U.S. Solar Startups Struggling to Compete with Chinese Firms

Solar startups talk about how they hope to take on Chinese firms.

Solar companies presenting business plans to investors at a National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) conference this week devoted particular attention to how they hope to compete with Chinese manufacturers. The audience at the NREL Industry Growth Forum in Denver consisted largely of venture capitalists and partners from private equity firms.

Stellaris, a company that assembles solar modules in Lowell, MA, has already received $6.1 million in funding to develop techniques for packaging silicon and thin-film cells. The company, represented at the conference by CEO James Paull, is seeking further financing in 2010.

Paull said that while European companies' cell-to-module costs are 70 cents per watt, China's are half that. "Solar modules have become a commodity, and China is dominating," he said. Like most of the other presenters, Paull didn't reveal too much about his company's technology. But he said that Stellaris hopes to save costs by adding passive plastic concentrators to silicon and thin-film cells and by reducing cell sizes.

An executive from a large European solar company expressed skepticism, however, that the US will ever be able to catch up with Chinese solar manufacturers. The executive, who manages his company's operations in China, said his company had explored manufacturing in California and Texas but that the labor costs were much too high. That said, he was at the conference looking for new solar technologies to buy up--an area where the US does still have an edge.

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  • Is this stupid or what?
    So let me get this straight:  we're borrowing money from the Chinese to create a stimulus package so we can give grants to companies who can't compete with the Chinese, and then we have to pay the money back to the Chinese with interest?  Is this any way to manage our economy and energy industry?  It's so backasswards that I can only assume someone is making a killing with these grants.  I wonder who?
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    kstauff
    11/04/2009
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  • Its worse
    Environmentalists have stopped us from mining the very rare earth metals that necessary for making the alternative energy devices they claim we need to be environmentally "sensitive". So the stimulus money, borrowed from the Chinese, goes to develop the products we can't actually make in the US because in 2012 China, which has a monopoly on rare earth metals, is expected to no longer export the metals. Instead, China wants to be the finished product supplier. So the products we design will only be available from the country we borrow the most money from, which then will require more money from China. See a vicious circle here? Meanwhile, the US which sits on over $40 Trillion in oil, can't drill for it. Eventually, the Chinese will turn in the debt and buy the oil assets and drill for it themselves. And we'll be is so much debt to them, we won't be able to stop it.
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    RD
    11/05/2009
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  • the viscious circle
    And I thought I was the only one that could
    see that...I really couldn't say it any better
    than the two previous posters.

    Let us stop the insanity!!
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    devassocx
    11/05/2009
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  • jobs
    I struggle to see the point of offshoring the manufacturing to cheap labour markets.  You might get the stuff made cheaply but if no-one back home has a job ('cos they've been offshored) then you have no-one to buy your lovely cheap products.
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    ginger_tos...
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  • Commodities are not worth fighting for.
    If solar cells become a commodity, then it's far better to let the Chinese do it. Low wages, environmental pollution, all coupled with low business profits...Why would you fight for that? Let the Chinese dig themselves into that low profit hole.

    When was the last time you cried that your tennis shoes are made in China? Same thing.

    PS - and besides nobody stops you from moving your manufacturing to China, and then exporting back to the US.
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    gabrielg01
    11/05/2009
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  • evil communists!
    All the China-US thing has nothing to do with bloody environmentalists or corrupted politicians (well, at least not mainly) or other, but simply it comes down to the fact that the businessman/entrepreneur wants to maximize his profit. It is a straight consequence of that beautiful thing called capitalism. If you care about job losses,public debt and other pathetic social issues, go to North Korea, communist!
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    UgoSugo
    11/05/2009
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  • Capitalism?
    Getting the government to give you cash is not capitalism.  The complaint is that the chinese communists are giving more money to their companies.  It should be risk-reward.
    If you don't like it, don't buy stuff made in china.  I try to avoid it.
    Drywall is out, and NO food stuffs.
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    SirLanse
    11/06/2009
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    • Re: Capitalism?
      Don't buy stuff made in China?  Everything where I shop is made in China.  Where do you go?
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      TooMany
      11/15/2009
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