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Friday, November 14, 2008

Why A123 Didn't Get the Volt Contract

GM is playing it safe with its promised electric car, choosing a veteran battery supplier.
By Kevin Bullis
GM's new electric car, the Volt. Credit: GM

There's still no official word (it's expected by the end of the year), but it looks as though A123 Systems, a company based on a remarkable new battery chemistry formulated at MIT, won't be supplying the batteries for the first generation of GM's new electric car, the Volt. The contract, according to a couple of news reports released in recent weeks, will go to LG Chem, a Korean company.

GM had considered A123, a startup with no large-scale experience manufacturing automotive batteries, in part because A123 had developed a novel battery chemistry that produced very powerful, safe, and long-lasting batteries. So, why didn't the company get the contract?

First, some background on why A123 was in the running in the first place. A123 replaced the cobalt-oxide-based electrodes of conventional lithium-ion batteries with new nanostructured iron-phosphate electrodes. These phosphates are inherently safer than the cobalt-oxide-based chemistries, which have been known to suddenly burst into flames, destroying laptops and cell phones in the process and leading to massive recalls. The conventional cobalt materials also don't last very long--that's why laptop batteries have to be replaced every couple of years. The capacity of A123's batteries, in contrast, doesn't fade much with use. Safe, long-lasting batteries are essential in cars, where they're expected to survive abusive conditions for a decade or more. Ultimately, cost is the biggest issue, and A123 has advantages in this area as well. Safer materials ultimately reduce costs by decreasing the need for redundant safety systems (such as those used in the Tesla Roadster). What's more, longer-lasting materials reduce the need to oversize the batteries to make up for fading capacity over their lifetime--something else that reduces costs. Finally, by replacing cobalt with iron, A123 also reduced the cost of materials.

LG Chem uses a manganese-oxide-based electrode, which is less inherently safe than A123's phosphate-based materials. The company uses other modifications to the cells, including a novel separator between the positive and negative electrodes, to make up for this.

Here are some guesses about why A123 didn't get the contract (if indeed it didn't).

GM may be betting that LG Chem is more likely to supply packs on time. LG Chem is a bigger and older company than A123, a startup founded in 2005, and it has more manufacturing capacity. What's more, Continental, which packaged hundreds of A123's battery cells into a large battery pack, was late delivering packs to GM for testing. Getting the Volt out on time is a big deal for the cash-strapped automaker, which is counting on the Volt to change its image and help turn around its sales. After disclosing that only one of the two battery companies would get the Volt contract, GM vice chair Bob Lutz has reportedly explained that "we feel that at this point we have a lower risk with the one company."

Chem's battery pack might be cheaper. There are a couple of reasons why the many cost-saving features of A123's batteries may not have led to a lower-cost battery pack. First, while replacing cobalt with iron reduces materials costs, working with nanoscale powders is very difficult and can add to processing costs.

Second, the design of the Volt may not take best advantage of A123's cells. The Volt design calls for far more battery cells than are actually needed to supply the car's 40-mile electric range. The pack has a capacity of 16 kilowatt-hours, or 2.5 miles per kilowatt-hour. In comparison, Tesla Motors is selling an electric car that gets 220 miles on a 53 kilowatt-hour pack, or more than four miles per kilowatt-hour. A direct comparison between the two isn't possible because they use different battery chemistries and have vehicles that don't weigh the same, and because the Volt is designed to operate like a hybrid after the first 40 miles, which requires keeping some battery charge in reserve. But the difference shouldn't be this much. According to one GM engineer, 12 kilowatt-hours should be plenty of energy. The extra four are essentially for insurance against battery degradation, so that at the end of a decade, the Volt still gets 40 miles out of the battery. A123's batteries may not need this kind of insurance, since they are so stable. That stability could make it possible to use fewer batteries than is possible with other chemistries, cutting costs. But GM requires A123 to supply the extra cells anyway. That could be wise, since better tests are needed to guarantee battery lifetimes, but the result is that the potential of A123's innovations isn't being exploited, so the packs are likely more expensive than they need to be.

Not getting the contract, which is reported to be for 50,000 battery packs, can't be good news for A123. But it's not the end for the company. It is still in the running for the next-generation Volt. What's more, the company is working on batteries for 18 other vehicles.

Comments

  • Battery Technology
    I am a LiFePO4 company located in Vegas, I think we have better product than A123, next year we will submit our battery pack to GM for evaluation, we use Phostech powder, our product is as good as A123 if not better, in fact A123 started in taiwan where my product is made right now. In the future we will move our production to USA.
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    Michelle@lif...
    11/15/2008
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    • Re: Battery Technology
      Dear Michelle,
      Same message to you:  Why not approach a good innovative domestic start-up entity that needs your technology - Tesla Motors in California.  With your technology, their roadster will really fly!
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      garysoaring
      12/03/2008
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      • Re: Battery Technology
        Great stuff on Olympics. Olympic Truce captures shared the spirit of the Olympics in Custom Essay: around the Games, the world should come together to work for peace and speak out against conflict. The Chinese government’s efforts to suppress athletes.Really good sharing.regards,
        PhD finance AND Education Diploma AND PhD sociology
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        markweee
        07/21/2009
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        • Re: Battery Technology
          I agree with your comments about the olympics but I'm not sure how they fit? It will be interesting to see how the winter Olympics goes in B.C.
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          thomasph
          08/31/2009
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    • Re: Battery Technology
      I think this could be the end of A123, really bad for the company.
      ----
      patio blinds
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      patioblinds
      05/10/2009
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      • Re: Battery Technology
        I do feel it makes more sense to diversity your suppliers. Sticking to one exclusive supplier is a bit like putting all one's eggs in the same basket. This could come back to severly bite GM if they are not careful.

        James | Luxury Yacht Charter
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        jameswilson
        08/06/2009
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      • Re: Battery Technology
        It seems that more and more specialist components are being outsourced to the Far east purely based on cost issues.
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        gognod
        10/12/2009
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    • Re: Battery Technology
      Team Darfur’s main efforts have been to advocate for an Olympic Truce for Darfur, and to raise awareness about the crisis. Al the best guys.
      PhD english AND Psychology Diploma
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      markweee
      07/21/2009
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    • Re: Battery Technology
      The BDU (Battery Disconnect Unit), designed by Valeo...!!! <a href=http://www.van-sales.org/>Van sales</a> !!!
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      Vanleasing
      07/23/2009
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  • LiFePO4 cells
    Whatever your need, I can probably supply you with smaller cells as well as large format, along with a BMS and charger.
    GM is going the way of the dinosaur, they dug their own grave by destroying the ev1.
    Support the startup little suppliers if you want to see this business grow
    thanks
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    FalconEV
    11/16/2008
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    • Re: LiFePO4 cells
      Dear Falcon,
      If the LIFePO4 is superior, and you want to engage a good innovative domestic start-up entity that needs your technology, why not approach Tesla Motors in California?  With your technology, their roadster will really fly!
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      garysoaring
      12/03/2008
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  • Volt Energy Transfer Efficiency
    The 12KWH of battery storage (per GM from the article) makes sense assuming the need for 20HP or 15KW to drive at 50MPH or 15KWH for one hour.  However there is a loss in power transfer from the batteries to the wheels through the motor and drive train. I have been led to believe that there is a 40% efficiency in this transfer; if so you would need 30KHW of battery storage in order to drive for 40 miles at 50mph.  So am I wrong in the efficiency number or what is the real speed-range of this vehicle going to be?
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    dmillerfla
    11/17/2008
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  • GM wants our help?
    Why should we bail out a company that is going to send that money to Korea?  this is more of the same near sighted attitude that got GM into this position.  When they turn their back on American Startups, Americans should turn their backs on them.  Henry Ford said to his engineers a 100 years ago, "Give me a V-8."  America got it.  Wagner should just say, "Give me a Free-Piston Linear Generator, nothing less will do."
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    Pat495
    11/17/2008
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    • Re: GM wants our help?
      I totally agree.  GM management dug it's own grave.  Those guys need to be replaced before the government gives them any money.  These guys and gals are making obscene amount of money while the company bleeds every quarter.  How can a lousy executive like Bob Lutz afford a collection of cars and a fighter jet plane? 

      Executive pay in America is out of line with their contribution to the company and society.  The finance industry is a poster child of this excess.  Those guys think they are master of the universe when in reality they were master of destruction.
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      bruinjoe
      11/17/2008
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    • Re: GM wants our help?
      Sorry for the off topic comment.
      I agree on the executive pay,  it is WAY out of line.  I could understand a pay incerase of 5X over top engineering positions ($100K).  Anything more is just insulting.

      The current situation is not entirely the fault of the AUTO's company's.  First,  there was a historic run up in fuel price coupled with the growing enviro / fuel security moment made a dramatic shift in what they bought.  Detroit didn't have the vehicles people wanted,  or didn't have enough of them.  Then CREDIT froze up,  and people stopped buying anything.
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      larryrose11
      11/18/2008
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  • You goofed on Miles per KWH
    Obviously, the author of this article doesn't frequent the GM Volt blogs.  This story was a done deal two months ago.

    While the Volt has a 16KWH battery, it only uses 8KWH of it's capacity.  The design of the Volt stops the charging at 80% of battery capacity, and engages the gasoline engine at 30% of battery capacity.  80%-30%=50% or 8KHW, and the Volt goes 40 miles on that, or 5 miles/KWH, not 2 1/2 miles/KWH.  Admittedly, that isn't as good as the smaller and more aerodynamic Tesla (which gets about 7 miles/KWH), but it's pretty close.

    GM says that they reason for using only 50% of the battery is two-fold.  First, they always need to have enough capacity in the battery to provide acceleration at the low end, and regenerative braking at the high end.  Second, the battery lasts longer when it's not deeply-cycled, and GM feels that they can get a 10-year life out of the battery by only cycling it 50%.

    As for why they went with LG versus A123 - it was manufacturing capacity and price.  Remember that LG/Conti batteries are used for the Mercedes Hybrid cars, and LG said that they had no issues with manufacturing capacity.  Remember that GM wants to built over 60,000 Volts/year.  In addition, LG said that they would undercut anyone's price on the batteries.  A123 doesn't have a large manufacturing capacity, so GM didn't want to risk their higest-profile product on a company without proven capacity.
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    swimdad623
    11/17/2008
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    • Re: You goofed on Miles per KWH
      No, I didn't goof. I was comparing the figures that actually matter, which are the total KWh, not those that are actually used. That's because, even if you don't use the extra storage capacity, you still have to pay for it.

      As for the reasons GM gives for only using half of the battery capacity: A123 batteries aren't as affected by deep cycling as many other battery chemistries, so such a big cushion isn't needed.

      As for price and manufacturing capacity being the reasons: I'm glad to see you agree with me.
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      Kevin Bullis
      11/19/2008
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  • Kick GM into its grave. It's about time for GM to die.
    GM does not deserve to exist as a company. When was the last time GM made a profit? 15 years ago?...Year after year you read in the news how they burn through untold billions of dollars. Meanwhile the top management pulls down hefty compensation packages. Did you know that Toyota's CEO compensation is barely above $1 million? By comparison, in 2007 the GM CEO's compensation package was nearly $16 million. How is this possible? They are milking the system, that's how it's possible. They crash the company into the ground, but it doesn't really matter, because they have their golden parachutes.

    Capitalism is supposed to be a system where resources get redistributed in the most efficient manner. Well, GM losing huge sums of money for decades and then asking for a taxpayer bailout, is not exactly a paragon of capitalism. It's more like some socialist job program...with very similar results, by the way.

    As for the Volt, well it's a nice plan, but GM will (hopefully) die soon.

    A123 shouldn't worry about the GM contract. If they perfect their product, they'll do very well without this dying dinosaur anyway.
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    gabrielg01
    11/18/2008
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  • Free-Piston Linear Generator
    I agree with Pat495 that the Free-Piston Linear Generator is the way to go. The reason we are in the mess we are in is that the government keeps bailing out failures and not letting them fail so some one who does it better can rise to the top.
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    zig158
    11/18/2008
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    • Re: Free-Piston Linear Generator
      Would a Free-Piston Linear Generator be useful in generating electrciity for off-grid applications where the fuel is either bio-diesel or ethanol?

      If yes - what's the cost of a FPLG and what sizes are they available in? A 10kVA system might power a whole house while a natural gas generator size may be useful for emergency power for homes.
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      mkogrady
      01/16/2009
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  • I am for the Koreans
    because they intend to set up production in the USA.  Should I root for the American company that has its production in China?
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    tammons
    11/18/2008
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  • technological reputation
    They’re doing something specific for the country and for our technological reputation, as well as for the environment. And rarely do you get a chance to be associated with something that is literally a game changer in the auto industry and performance auto parts."
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    MickeyFouse
    01/16/2009
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  • [no subject]
    So here is another invention that car enthusiasts will certainly want to take on a road test and perhaps, own. Some people just can’t bear being left behind by others when it comes to the latest technology. General Motors is still perfecting the “Volt”. Whichever battery supplier gets the Volt contract, I’m sure the major concern of its will-be patrons will be the car’s safety and affordability. But to those who are already satisfied with their cars but are having trouble paying it, you don’t have to worry much. Let Online Cash Advance keep your worries at bay.
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    AndreaP
    02/28/2009
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  • [no subject]
    Wow great article and It has enriched my knowledge a lot . Thanks for this.

    Volkswagen transporter|| left hand guitars
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    cool_dude
    03/17/2009
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  • [no subject]
    I must admit this website is a good source for those students who often write academic technology papers.
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    jasonglades
    03/30/2009
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  • Thank you!
    It is very good for all students who need to write custom essay independently.
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    essay911
    04/07/2009
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    • [no subject]
      I am sure thatIf GM or Chrysler has any sense at all they’d be looking for at least two suppliers of battery packs for the Volt.

      So having A123 and LG Chem/Compact Power as suppliers is nothing unusual. Why would GM want to make Volt production dependent on the ability of any one company to produce batteries
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      Simoneb
      08/14/2009
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  • To avoid the pollution
    It's great!
    All car must be electric

    CV
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    eramus33
    05/26/2009
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  • Car Life
    Hi,

    I'm probably going to come across as quite a noob, but how long does the electric car measure up from a distance travelling perspective against the standard gas car?

    Cosmin | Skylight Windows
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    cosminanton
    08/02/2009
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  • Electric Cars
    Well it was really good to see cars running on electricity but countries where electric problems growing day by day, will this car be appreciated?

    sem | online marketing
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    sem
    08/03/2009
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  • [no subject]
    If GM has any sense at all they’d be looking for at least two suppliers of battery packs for the Volt.

    So having A123 and LG Chem/Compact Power as suppliers is nothing unusual. Why would GM want to make Volt production dependent on the ability of any one company to produce batteries?
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    AnahidMaral
    08/04/2009
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  • Why A123 Didn't Get the Volt Contract
    With so many losses, GM needs a strong partner. A123 is not the right fit for GM. There are variety of other sub-reasons the venture did not push through that are worth mentioning in various college papers. In my class, I encourage my students to be analytical before they pass their college term papers. The GM-A123 is a good example to test their analytical abilities.
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    johnmcaliste...
    08/12/2009
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  • [no subject]
    Don’t you mean 1.4k employees? i don’t think they will be employing people like a steel mill in the 1950’s….
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    StevenGrant
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  • The most likely reason
    In my view, Continental's delay in delivery is the major reason why A123 lost the contract that subsequently went to the Korean LG Chem. I don't think that solely the cost made the auto giant GM to change its mind... for they were on the verge of their newest launch Vault and all that mattered for them must have been quality of product and timely delivery.
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    dubizzle
    08/16/2009
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  • [no subject]
    They went with the company that they obviously felt would be the most reliable and has the longest track record.
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    chloev
    08/27/2009
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  • [no subject]
    It is too bad that you did not get the contract. The technology sounds very impressive.
    Bill Gassett ~ Milford MA Real Estate
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    Framingham M...
    09/25/2009
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  • [no subject]
    I have been led to believe that there is a 40% efficiency in this transfer; if so you would need 30KHW of battery storage in order to drive for 40 miles at 50mph. So am I wrong in the efficiency number or what is the real speed-range of this vehicle going to be?
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    hankjmatt
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