GM is playing it safe with its promised electric car, choosing a veteran battery supplier.
| GM's new electric car, the Volt. Credit: GM |
There's still no official word (it's expected by the end of the year), but it looks as though A123 Systems, a company based on a remarkable new battery chemistry formulated at MIT, won't be supplying the batteries for the first generation of GM's new electric car, the Volt. The contract, according to a couple of news reports released in recent weeks, will go to LG Chem, a Korean company.
GM had considered A123, a startup with no large-scale experience manufacturing automotive batteries, in part because A123 had developed a novel battery chemistry that produced very powerful, safe, and long-lasting batteries. So, why didn't the company get the contract?
First, some background on why A123 was in the running in the first place. A123 replaced the cobalt-oxide-based electrodes of conventional lithium-ion batteries with new nanostructured iron-phosphate electrodes. These phosphates are inherently safer than the cobalt-oxide-based chemistries, which have been known to suddenly burst into flames, destroying laptops and cell phones in the process and leading to massive recalls. The conventional cobalt materials also don't last very long--that's why laptop batteries have to be replaced every couple of years. The capacity of A123's batteries, in contrast, doesn't fade much with use. Safe, long-lasting batteries are essential in cars, where they're expected to survive abusive conditions for a decade or more. Ultimately, cost is the biggest issue, and A123 has advantages in this area as well. Safer materials ultimately reduce costs by decreasing the need for redundant safety systems (such as those used in the Tesla Roadster). What's more, longer-lasting materials reduce the need to oversize the batteries to make up for fading capacity over their lifetime--something else that reduces costs. Finally, by replacing cobalt with iron, A123 also reduced the cost of materials.
LG Chem uses a manganese-oxide-based electrode, which is less inherently safe than A123's phosphate-based materials. The company uses other modifications to the cells, including a novel separator between the positive and negative electrodes, to make up for this.
Here are some guesses about why A123 didn't get the contract (if indeed it didn't).
GM may be betting that LG Chem is more likely to supply packs on time. LG Chem is a bigger and older company than A123, a startup founded in 2005, and it has more manufacturing capacity. What's more, Continental, which packaged hundreds of A123's battery cells into a large battery pack, was late delivering packs to GM for testing. Getting the Volt out on time is a big deal for the cash-strapped automaker, which is counting on the Volt to change its image and help turn around its sales. After disclosing that only one of the two battery companies would get the Volt contract, GM vice chair Bob Lutz has reportedly explained that "we feel that at this point we have a lower risk with the one company."
Chem's battery pack might be cheaper. There are a couple of reasons why the many cost-saving features of A123's batteries may not have led to a lower-cost battery pack. First, while replacing cobalt with iron reduces materials costs, working with nanoscale powders is very difficult and can add to processing costs.
Second, the design of the Volt may not take best advantage of A123's cells. The Volt design calls for far more battery cells than are actually needed to supply the car's 40-mile electric range. The pack has a capacity of 16 kilowatt-hours, or 2.5 miles per kilowatt-hour. In comparison, Tesla Motors is selling an electric car that gets 220 miles on a 53 kilowatt-hour pack, or more than four miles per kilowatt-hour. A direct comparison between the two isn't possible because they use different battery chemistries and have vehicles that don't weigh the same, and because the Volt is designed to operate like a hybrid after the first 40 miles, which requires keeping some battery charge in reserve. But the difference shouldn't be this much. According to one GM engineer, 12 kilowatt-hours should be plenty of energy. The extra four are essentially for insurance against battery degradation, so that at the end of a decade, the Volt still gets 40 miles out of the battery. A123's batteries may not need this kind of insurance, since they are so stable. That stability could make it possible to use fewer batteries than is possible with other chemistries, cutting costs. But GM requires A123 to supply the extra cells anyway. That could be wise, since better tests are needed to guarantee battery lifetimes, but the result is that the potential of A123's innovations isn't being exploited, so the packs are likely more expensive than they need to be.
Not getting the contract, which is reported to be for 50,000 battery packs, can't be good news for A123. But it's not the end for the company. It is still in the running for the next-generation Volt. What's more, the company is working on batteries for 18 other vehicles.
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Same message to you: Why not approach a good innovative domestic start-up entity that needs your technology - Tesla Motors in California. With your technology, their roadster will really fly!
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GM is going the way of the dinosaur, they dug their own grave by destroying the ev1.
Support the startup little suppliers if you want to see this business grow
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11/16/2008
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If the LIFePO4 is superior, and you want to engage a good innovative domestic start-up entity that needs your technology, why not approach Tesla Motors in California? With your technology, their roadster will really fly!
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11/17/2008
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I agree on the executive pay, it is WAY out of line. I could understand a pay incerase of 5X over top engineering positions ($100K). Anything more is just insulting.
The current situation is not entirely the fault of the AUTO's company's. First, there was a historic run up in fuel price coupled with the growing enviro / fuel security moment made a dramatic shift in what they bought. Detroit didn't have the vehicles people wanted, or didn't have enough of them. Then CREDIT froze up, and people stopped buying anything.
larryrose11
11/18/2008
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While the Volt has a 16KWH battery, it only uses 8KWH of it's capacity. The design of the Volt stops the charging at 80% of battery capacity, and engages the gasoline engine at 30% of battery capacity. 80%-30%=50% or 8KHW, and the Volt goes 40 miles on that, or 5 miles/KWH, not 2 1/2 miles/KWH. Admittedly, that isn't as good as the smaller and more aerodynamic Tesla (which gets about 7 miles/KWH), but it's pretty close.
GM says that they reason for using only 50% of the battery is two-fold. First, they always need to have enough capacity in the battery to provide acceleration at the low end, and regenerative braking at the high end. Second, the battery lasts longer when it's not deeply-cycled, and GM feels that they can get a 10-year life out of the battery by only cycling it 50%.
As for why they went with LG versus A123 - it was manufacturing capacity and price. Remember that LG/Conti batteries are used for the Mercedes Hybrid cars, and LG said that they had no issues with manufacturing capacity. Remember that GM wants to built over 60,000 Volts/year. In addition, LG said that they would undercut anyone's price on the batteries. A123 doesn't have a large manufacturing capacity, so GM didn't want to risk their higest-profile product on a company without proven capacity.
swimdad623
11/17/2008
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As for the reasons GM gives for only using half of the battery capacity: A123 batteries aren't as affected by deep cycling as many other battery chemistries, so such a big cushion isn't needed.
As for price and manufacturing capacity being the reasons: I'm glad to see you agree with me.
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11/19/2008
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Capitalism is supposed to be a system where resources get redistributed in the most efficient manner. Well, GM losing huge sums of money for decades and then asking for a taxpayer bailout, is not exactly a paragon of capitalism. It's more like some socialist job program...with very similar results, by the way.
As for the Volt, well it's a nice plan, but GM will (hopefully) die soon.
A123 shouldn't worry about the GM contract. If they perfect their product, they'll do very well without this dying dinosaur anyway.
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11/18/2008
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Why did the EV-1 die? Why did Ralph Nader say, in Who Killed the Electric Car (WKTEC), "They promise the earth, meanwhile buy my 8mpg Hummer;" "They make too much money with 'business as usual,' making the same old gas guzzlers?" Not to mention that the oil companies are very happy that it is the case. And you might imagine that it is not by accident that GM does so either; the EV-1 being the case in point. WKTEC had it right, IMO.
EVs - WHO TO TRUST? http://www.technologyreview.com/discussions/energy/61076/page3/#comment-205913
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So having A123 and LG Chem/Compact Power as suppliers is nothing unusual. Why would GM want to make Volt production dependent on the ability of any one company to produce batteries
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I'm probably going to come across as quite a noob, but how long does the electric car measure up from a distance travelling perspective against the standard gas car?
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So having A123 and LG Chem/Compact Power as suppliers is nothing unusual. Why would GM want to make Volt production dependent on the ability of any one company to produce batteries?
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