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Friday, November 02, 2007

Mighty Mouse is Here!

Scientists at Case Western Reserve have bred a mouse that can eat loads, stay slim, and live longer.
By Michael Patrick Gibson

A new breed of mouse--for transhumanists, the ubermaus--is capable of running five to six kilometers at a speed of 20 meters per minute on a treadmill for as long as six hours before having to call it quits. This mouse can also eat 60 percent more than a normal mouse and yet remains in better shape, lives longer, and breeds well into old age.

The genetically modified mice were bred as part of research to study the metabolic role of the PEPCK-C enzyme in skeletal muscle. The key to the changes in these mice involves the overexpression of the gene for PEPCK-C.

But transhumanists take heed. In a press release, Richard W. Hanson, a professor of biochemistry at Case Western and an author on the paper announcing the findings, warns against using the research to enhance humans:

"The technique used to create the animal model reported in our study is not appropriate for application to humans. The ethical implications are such that this approach should not be used in humans, nor is it technically possible at this time to efficiently introduce genes into human skeletal muscle, in order to mimic the effect seen in our mice."

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  • Mighty mouse
    "not appropriate for application to humans" - why? Do the reasons ever go beyond "unproven technology", "more research is needed, scientists caution" and other platitudes? Certainly, genetically modifying all the cells in an adult's body is beyond our abilities at present, but mimicking the effect of gene over-expression would provide tremendous benefits.

    Of all the media sources, one would expect Tech. Review to me more open minded and enthusiastic about new technologies.
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    nilincic
    11/03/2007
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  • Ethical Implications?
    What are those I wonder? That it is technically not feasible, at this time, to engineer the same feat in humans I can understand, but what ethical considerations would bar people from living healthier and longer lives, which happens in the case of these mice?
    I have often wondered about low carb diets that some people rave about. These mice burn burn fatty acids and not glucose for energy. They produce only tiny amounts of lactic acid, the byproduct that builds up in muscles and causes cramps with overexercise.
    Maybe some humans are genetically programmed to do the same? Switch to lyposis - which means burning of fat.
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    rajnz
    11/04/2007
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    • Re: Ethical Implications? - Political implications
      There is a wholesale fear of genetic engineering applied to humans. The masses don't differentiate between possibly good advances and questionable ones. And the media is always on the lookout to whip up public hysteria.

      In this ignorant and hostile environment a researcher needs to be very careful on how the results are framed and presented to the public. The statement this research group made is a "preemptive statement" to avoid controversy. Very smart on their part (James Watson should pay attention and take notes).
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      gabrielg01
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      • Re: Ethical Implications? - Politically Correct?
        I guess it is politically incorrect to try and genetically engineer humans – that is an unbreakable taboo. We can genetically engineer wild grass, plants, flowers, dogs, horses, cattle, pigs and of course rats .. but humans? – that is an absolute no-no.

        Politics and science don’t mix. The Catholic Church forced Galileo to recant and proclaim that the Sun revolved around the Earth, but he knew the truth and muttered under his breath in Latin "Eppur Si Muove" - and yet it moves (the Earth) - just like evolution, inexorably on.

        "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, ..." dare anyone point out that it is not "self-evident", rather quite to the contrary, and he risks being crucified – no matter if he happens to be James Watson.
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        rajnz
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  • great news for mice!
    Of course the research is not to be used for humans... duh!! This is all part of a conspiracy by the exterminators association to create uber mice and release them across America in an effort to improve sales.

    Seriously, why would we be experimenting with the mice if it wasn't to learn how to improve human health?
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    wthomasoh
    11/05/2007
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  • a bad idea
    It sounds like the Dollyites are at it again. Sir Francis Galton, who was, oddly enough, related to Charles Darwin, would have approved of such experimentation. But far from being a successful tool for social engineering, eugenics only managed to create a rather frightening Frankenstein.
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    phoenix
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  • Not for humans ...?
    Ethics, schm-ethics. Don't think for a second some of these researchers have no guinea pig mentality to themselves.

    Speaking for myself, if I have a potential scientific breakthrough that could potentially generate millions of dollars my way, don't anyone think I wouldn't consider my own body to test with. Ok, maybe not my own body, but who is in a position to stop me from using my own children, or even my own mother's body to do further research with?

    "Thanks, Mom!"

    Technical writers tend to be dry and unimaginative, sticklers only for the facts when they write articles, and rightly so, I suppose. So I thought I'd spice up the readers thoughts to this story with a dash of belated Halloween humor.
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    mergatroid
    11/06/2007
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    • Re: Not for humans ...? - Not humans like you anyways
      Children cannot give you an educated consent, so you would be committing a crime by experimenting on them. As for your mom, if she is dumb enough to do some wacko experiment, then so be it. It probably runs in the family...

      And even if you do all these things, it is still useless, because biological knowledge needs to be validated on a population (hence clinical trials) 2-3 individuals won't do.
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      gabrielg01
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  • Mighty Mouse is Here!
    What would happen if "Mighty Mouse" escaped and bred with normal "street" mice? That could create a potential disaster.
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    Razzo
    12/31/2007
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