Potential Market for Plug-in Hybrids
Consumers want them--once they know what they are.
Kevin Bullis 05/17/2007
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A new study shows that when consumers understand what plug-in hybrids are, they want them. The vehicles, which have large onboard batteries, can be recharged overnight by plugging them in, storing enough electricity to power daily commutes. For longer distances, a gasoline engine kicks in, assisting the electric motor and recharging the battery. The major automakers do not yet offer plug-in hybrids, but several are developing them. For those consumers who can't wait, a handful of companies offer conversion kits for conventional hybrids.
Of the more than 3,000 consumers asked if they would consider buying a "grid-connected hybrid," the term used for plug-in hybrids in the survey, only 24 percent said that they would, according to the survey by Synovate Motoresearch. But when they were told what such a car could do, that figure nearly tripled, to 64 percent. That's well above the percentage of people who would consider buying an ordinary hybrid, like the Toyota Prius, which doesn't have extended battery-powered range. Scott Miller, the CEO of Synovate Motoresearch, presented the survey's results this week at the Advanced Automotive Battery Conference in Long Beach, CA.
The results suggest that consumers like the idea of the plug-in hybrid--but that so far, car companies are doing a lousy job of getting the word out. That's not the case with flex-fuel vehicles, though. These cars, which can burn either gasoline or a mixture of 85 percent ethanol, scored high on the desirability charts--that is, until consumers were told more about them. Flex-fuel vehicles have been the subject of heavy promotion by automakers. But the marketing campaigns have fallen short of providing all the details: consumers thought that flex-fuel improved fuel economy, Miller said. Actually, the opposite is true. Ethanol contains much less energy than gasoline does, so miles per gallon will be significantly lower, as will range on a tank of gas. When consumers were told this, the percentage of people who would consider buying the cars dropped from 52 to 33 percent.
It remains to be seen if the desirability of plug-ins is enough to overcome their steep price tag. They could cost thousands of dollars more than a conventional hybrid, which already comes at a premium. Still, consumers are willing to shell out thousands of dollars more for SUVs than for minivans because of their perceived advantages. So if the word gets out and the cars get built, plug-ins might just be the next big thing.



theBike45
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Birdbrained article
I read this article with astonishment. It claims that automaker shave pushed E85 vehicles but not plug-in hybrids. Gee, perhaps the fact that none have found a suitable battery for a plug-in might provide a small obstacle. Do you think? The aftermarket plug-in conversions are pure junk - they start off by emptying your bank account by $12,000 and in return procide a lousy
all-electric range guaranteed to be less than 25 miles (often less than 15). On top of that, the batteries last less than 5 years and oh, by the way, your warranty is also voided. The economics
is not in your favor - your cents per mile costs go way up and you will have done next to nothing
in helping reduce emissions. What more could anyone ask for?
So why would anyone complain about a company advertising a product that they don't even sell?
GM will sell one in 2010. Whether Toyota and Honda, Nissan and Mazda will have one by then is somewhat uncertain, but they will all have one
around that time frame. Everyone, like me, who's interested in a real, factory backed plug-in
already is well aware of the Chevy VOLT We know what it looks like and how much it will cost and what it's all-electric range will be. There have been 10,000 articles describing the VOLT. I'd say that an awful lot of people are aware of plug-ins,
even if none are currently available. So what's the big hurry to clue in the entire public about cars 3 years off? Stupid article, really stupid.
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e1p1
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Re: Birdbrained article
There is a workable battery out there.
Toyota made Rav-4 EV's (in answer to the CARB mandate) in the late 90's using a NiMH battery made by a joint Toyota-Panasonic venture. These Rav-4's...conversions if you will, as they were not designed ground up as EV's...get 80-120 miles on a charge, and many battery packs are still going strong after 100,000 miles.
But Toyota was sued by a company called Cobasys (owned by CHEVRON) for patent infringement, and the suit was settled out of court, with details held secret and Toyota-Panasonic unable to produce more of the batteries.
And Cobasys won't release it's batteries to the general public (which would allow the backyard EV to PERFORM), but they will sell to the US Army for it's hybrids ( http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/05/15/047804.html ).
The supposed need/wait for lithium-ion is another stalling tactic by GM. Why? EV's and serial hybrids have next to zilch parts that need regular maintenance or replacing!
Say what you will, you cannot deny the FACT that these RAV-4's exist, and they WORK! There's one near me, and this guy blows by my 3.8L V6 Taurus.
Here's a link showing a Rav-4 EV with a range extending trailer/generator, making it a serial hybrid. http://www.evnut.com/rav_longranger.htm
And no, it's nickel-cadmium batteries that are toxic disasters, not NiMH.
Wake up America.
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willdryden
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Re: Birdbrained article
The only thing birdbrained about the article is that the auto manufacturers did not start using this technology in 2003. Their excuse for not building more battery electric vehicles in 1999-2003 under the CARB mandate was the issue of range. The serial plug-in hybrid is the obvious upgrade to the BEV and NiMH batteries are the only type proven to last longer than the rest of the car. Lithium batteries have a calander life issue I do not believe anyone will be able to overcome. I do not believe the Chevy Volt will ever be made. It is a PR stunt to try and overcome the damage to the GM reputation caused by the movie "Who Killed The Electric Car." If they intended to build the Volt, GM would build it using the existing NiMH batteries and upgrade later IF the calander life issue with lithium batteries is ever solved.
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