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Wednesday, January 04, 2006

Apple -- A Tragic Love Story

Apple users are fervent in their love for Steve Jobs' devices. I'm happy they have technology that works for them -- but they're misguided.
By Brad King

UPDATE: I knew the storm was coming when I posted this, but I did it anyway. Possibly I wasn't clear enough. I'm willing to admit that. However, let me reiterate my point in a very clear way: I've got no problem with Apple. I used Apple products until 1999, when I started working at Wired, a PC shop, and began covering digital entertainment, which didn't really exist on Apple products back then. So -- truly folks -- I get it. I understand. For loads of people, Apple is what they choose.

The simple point I'm trying to make here: Jobs' deal with the entertainment industry and its DRM practices are bad for consumers. This isn't a knock on the iPod (although I really don't get it). If you love your iPod, by all means, use it in complete happiness and joy. But that doesn't mean you should be overjoyed by the DRM practices the company has built itself on.  Now -- on to the original post.

Let me start this post by saying this: if you like Apple, you are likely going to want to stab me with a fork when you are done reading this. I apologize for that. But since we're all friends here, I think it's important that I remind you of a few things.

Okay, now that's out of the way. As you probably know, MacWorld takes place next week, and I have no doubt that Apple addicts around the planet are so giddy with anticipation that many of them can't sleep. I also know that no matter how much I try to make this blog sound respectful, I am going to fail miserably because it's difficult to have a rational discussion with people who are so into anything.

But I completely respect that stance. I would even go so far as to say, I completely understand their stance. I feel that way about The Ohio State University, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Cincinnati Reds, and the Cincinnati Bearcats, and my mother.

However, sometimes, blind faith isn't enough. And in this particular case, unquestioning faith in all things Steve is a bad idea. (For what it's worth, this McSweeney's post should take some of the heat off me, I hope.)

The immediate response I get when I bring this up is always the same: Microsoft is soooo much worse. But I disagree. There is an army of programmers around the world who are developing applications, work-arounds, and other goodies that allow me to circumvent most of the aspects about Microsoft products I don't like. The coolest thing that I do is record television with my PC, hack the DRM, burn it to a DVD, and take that program with me anywhere. But I know that's doesn't even touch the tip of the iceberg.

However, that's not what really, really sticks in my craw. I reserve that (possibly irrational) anger for the iPod and iTunes, two music products that are so restrictive in their licensing and user set-ups that I have never been able to bring myself to download the software to purchase music through iTunes or pony up the cash to by an iPod.

It's fairly well publicized that if you have music on your hard drive, music you've purchased a license to use through iTunes, and your computer crashes -- you lose all of that music. It's not a common occurrence for sure (at least, I hope it's not), but when it does happen (as it nearly did to one editor here), your view of Apple suddenly, and dramatically, changes. (This doesn't even begin to touch on the fact that the iPod was clearly not the first digital music player, and for my tastes, isn't even the best player -- but the Altoids-style packaging has certainly resonated with consumers, which is the bottom line.)

That said, even that restrictive licensing doesn't ultimately get to me. Every company has the right to set up the terms of use (within reason), and that is the road Apple chose to go down. The problem is they've been so compliant with the entertainment industry -- foisting ridiculous digital rights management on consumers -- that they may very well be setting the table for the music and movie industries to expand their restrictive licensing to entirely new platforms.

Jobs has, by and large, become a proxy for the music and movie industries in the continual eroding of consumer rights in a digital age. And -- for everyone who shells out their hard-earned money for the latest and greatest gadget -- you've all fallen for it.

No, what really gets to me is that I think all of the Apple users around the planet know this already, but simply have stopped caring -- and I can't figure out why. However, I think I may have figured it out, thanks to one unnamed person who said to me: "Yes, but the iPod is so cute."

Comments

  • I didnt know ###holes could talk
    Im calling my med school to find out why they omitted that fact from my education.  Or perhaps youre just a freak.

    Thanks - you learn something new everyday!
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    Guest (Doctor)
    01/04/2006
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  • I didnt know a**holes could talk
    Amazing!  Ill have to contact my medical school about this omission - or perhaps youre just a freak?

    Thanks, you learn something new everyday, I guess!
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    Guest (Doctor)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • Its true.
      I have numerous friends with iPods and none of them can tell my why the iPod is so great except for &quotIt looks awesome&quot.  Im not against Apple in general, but I really dont like iTunes and the iPod.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Andrew)
      01/04/2006
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    • never used iTunes or iPod...
      yet youre still an expert and know all about them, right?
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (James)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • The iPod is great because of iTunes
      But thats just the start.

      It works flawlessly with my Mac. &gt&gtA superior computer and operating system.  By the way, iTunes is the only legal way to buy music - for the Mac.  Therefore the compatibility is the highest.

      More accessories available than any other MP3 player.

      It holds my photos and my videos (now).

      It plugs in directly to my car stereo system and is controlled by the steering wheel controls.

      Oh yeah and It looks awesome.

      When you can approach an Apple product with an open mind... Come back and see me.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Sheldon)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • please
      change professions.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (chris)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • DRM + WMA = ok?
      Is it ok for Microsoft to DRM their media offerings all to hell and back?
      Is it ok for them because its OK to hate Microsoft and we believe theyll screw us over anyway?
      The only reason people bitch about iTunes and iTMS is because the iPod doesnt play Windows Media Player Audio files.. pure and simple. I have no iTMS AAC files on my iPod because I wont submit to DRM. All my audio files are MP3s converted from CDs I bought.. which as far as Im concerned is fairusage and legal. As long as the **IA, Apple, Microsoft and others keep trying to use Digital Restriction Management software for online music purchases.. Ill not buy them. When they make CDs unable to be converted to MP3s.. Ill stop buying them. Oh Bloody well. Theyll not get my dollar for each format they want to shove down our throats every few years.. and I wont rent my music for a monthly fee.. guess Im too friggin old. When I bought an LP or a tape.. it was mine to listen to until the media wore out. *shrug*
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Ben Rosenberg)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Thems Fightin Words...
      First of all, a true audiophile would not prefer mp3 iTunes over a CD.  They sound very different.  Secondly, I am not an Apple user.  I have been using IBM-compatible PCs since they came out in 1983.  I hate them and I hate Gates for turning out sh*t.  My brother has an Apple laptop that I absolutely adore and have been thinking about getting.

      Right now I am experiencing some wierd ActiveX problem with my Internet Explorer.  All of my anti-virus software and anti-spyware software says my machine clean and working optimally.  BS!  Its a piece of crap and brand new.  Ive had it working on this junk and its time for a change.

      Say what you will about Apple, Steve Jobs, and iPods.  Apple Computer has a loyal following for a reason.  They care about the products they develop and they are about to gain another loyal customer in the near future.  Bill Gates and Ballmer can sell their wares to the third world for all I care.  Like GM, they had their chance and they blew it!
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Chris)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • iTunes locks you into iPod hardware
      With Windows WMA and DRM you have many devices and vendors to choose from.  This is why I dont buy from iTunes and dont use the iPod.  If iPod would support WMA and WMA-based music serices I would.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Bill Wood)
      01/06/2006
      Posts:1
    • Its true.
      I have numerous friends with iPods and none of them can tell my why the iPod is so great except for &quotIt looks awesome&quot.  Im not against Apple in general, but I really dont like iTunes and the iPod.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Andrew)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • never used iTunes or iPod...
      yet youre still an expert and know all about them, right?
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (James)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • The iPod is great because of iTunes
      But thats just the start.

      It works flawlessly with my Mac. &gt&gtA superior computer and operating system.  By the way, iTunes is the only legal way to buy music - for the Mac.  Therefore the compatibility is the highest.

      More accessories available than any other MP3 player.

      It holds my photos and my videos (now).

      It plugs in directly to my car stereo system and is controlled by the steering wheel controls.

      Oh yeah and It looks awesome.

      When you can approach an Apple product with an open mind... Come back and see me.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Sheldon)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • please
      change professions.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (chris)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • DRM + WMA = ok?
      Is it ok for Microsoft to DRM their media offerings all to hell and back?
      Is it ok for them because its OK to hate Microsoft and we believe theyll screw us over anyway?
      The only reason people bitch about iTunes and iTMS is because the iPod doesnt play Windows Media Player Audio files.. pure and simple. I have no iTMS AAC files on my iPod because I wont submit to DRM. All my audio files are MP3s converted from CDs I bought.. which as far as Im concerned is fairusage and legal. As long as the **IA, Apple, Microsoft and others keep trying to use Digital Restriction Management software for online music purchases.. Ill not buy them. When they make CDs unable to be converted to MP3s.. Ill stop buying them. Oh Bloody well. Theyll not get my dollar for each format they want to shove down our throats every few years.. and I wont rent my music for a monthly fee.. guess Im too friggin old. When I bought an LP or a tape.. it was mine to listen to until the media wore out. *shrug*
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Ben Rosenberg)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Thems Fightin Words...
      First of all, a true audiophile would not prefer mp3 iTunes over a CD.  They sound very different.  Secondly, I am not an Apple user.  I have been using IBM-compatible PCs since they came out in 1983.  I hate them and I hate Gates for turning out sh*t.  My brother has an Apple laptop that I absolutely adore and have been thinking about getting.

      Right now I am experiencing some wierd ActiveX problem with my Internet Explorer.  All of my anti-virus software and anti-spyware software says my machine clean and working optimally.  BS!  Its a piece of crap and brand new.  Ive had it working on this junk and its time for a change.

      Say what you will about Apple, Steve Jobs, and iPods.  Apple Computer has a loyal following for a reason.  They care about the products they develop and they are about to gain another loyal customer in the near future.  Bill Gates and Ballmer can sell their wares to the third world for all I care.  Like GM, they had their chance and they blew it!
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Chris)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • iTunes locks you into iPod hardware
      With Windows WMA and DRM you have many devices and vendors to choose from.  This is why I dont buy from iTunes and dont use the iPod.  If iPod would support WMA and WMA-based music serices I would.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Bill Wood)
      01/06/2006
      Posts:1
  • Thats so cute
    Yep, a &quotsage&quot writing about something he has no clue about what hes talking about writing about somethig he has never used nor owned -now, thats so cute.
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    Guest (HDL)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • This is all about getting hits on a website.
      We have all given this idiot what he wanted by hitting his site to see what uneducated, worthless journalism comes from the author and publication.

      He is no freakin journalist or reviewer but he definitely knows how to run up some hit counters!!

      -MacAubie
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      Guest (MacAubie)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • I found iPod/iTunes the least retrictive
      and Microsoft DRMd WMA the most. Plus iPod/iTunes works well. Hum, I record TV and watch it on my iPod without the DRM restrictions you mention MS having (just google to see how). You must be using Windows MCE umm? One of the suckers are you?

      Ill guess youll get hits on this. Hate/Ignorance like yours can sometimes blind rational thought. Just be happy with what you have and dont worry about what others are using.

      Incidentally, Microsoft and the entertainment companies were working on DRM long ago, thank god Apple came along... or your DVD player would soon have to feature a windows OS  and DRM scheme just to play rented/purchased DVDs let alone video downloads.
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      Guest (Rob)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • I agree with your article, but most of the posters missed the point
      Its not the iPod or iTunes itself that the article criticizes, but the precedent-setting DRM technology thats being quietly accepted by the users. I have an iPod and I dont buy from the Apple store. I use my mp3, non-DRM content on the iPod and all is good. I do worry about the time when there wont be any non-DRM content. So products that further the standardization of DRM are not good for consumers. Time will tell.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Bill)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • I agree with your article, but most of the posters missed the point
      Its not the iPod or iTunes itself that the article criticizes, but the precedent-setting DRM technology thats being quietly accepted by the users. I have an iPod and I dont buy from the Apple store. I use my mp3, non-DRM content on the iPod and all is good. I do worry about the time when there wont be any non-DRM content. So products that further the standardization of DRM are not good for consumers. Time will tell.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Bill)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • iPod DRM not mandatory (Yet!)
      I own several generations of iPod and have not run into any DRM restrictions.  I buy my music on CD and simply rip it to either directly to high bitrate MP3 or indirectly via FLAC (a lossless codec).  I then have the freedom to do with it what I like.  I point blank refuse to buy any DRM protected music.  iTunes manages my MP3 library quite well and I can always re-rip or transcode from FLAC if I am not happy with the content.

      The time to start worrying is if DRM becomes mandatory.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Phil from OZ)
      01/06/2006
      Posts:1
    • iPod DRM not mandatory (Yet!)
      I own several generations of iPod and have not run into any DRM restrictions.  I buy my music on CD and simply rip it to either directly to high bitrate MP3 or indirectly via FLAC (a lossless codec).  I then have the freedom to do with it what I like.  I point blank refuse to buy any DRM protected music.  iTunes manages my MP3 library quite well and I can always re-rip or transcode from FLAC if I am not happy with the content.

      The time to start worrying is if DRM becomes mandatory.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Phil from OZ)
      01/06/2006
      Posts:1
    • iPod DRM not mandatory (Yet!)
      I own several generations of iPod and have not run into any DRM restrictions.  I buy my music on CD and simply rip it to either directly to high bitrate MP3 or indirectly via FLAC (a lossless codec).  I then have the freedom to do with it what I like.  I point blank refuse to buy any DRM protected music.  iTunes manages my MP3 library quite well and I can always re-rip or transcode from FLAC if I am not happy with the content.

      The time to start worrying is if DRM becomes mandatory.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Phil from OZ)
      01/06/2006
      Posts:1
    • This is all about getting hits on a website.
      We have all given this idiot what he wanted by hitting his site to see what uneducated, worthless journalism comes from the author and publication.

      He is no freakin journalist or reviewer but he definitely knows how to run up some hit counters!!

      -MacAubie
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (MacAubie)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • I found iPod/iTunes the least retrictive
      and Microsoft DRMd WMA the most. Plus iPod/iTunes works well. Hum, I record TV and watch it on my iPod without the DRM restrictions you mention MS having (just google to see how). You must be using Windows MCE umm? One of the suckers are you?

      Ill guess youll get hits on this. Hate/Ignorance like yours can sometimes blind rational thought. Just be happy with what you have and dont worry about what others are using.

      Incidentally, Microsoft and the entertainment companies were working on DRM long ago, thank god Apple came along... or your DVD player would soon have to feature a windows OS  and DRM scheme just to play rented/purchased DVDs let alone video downloads.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Rob)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • I agree with your article, but most of the posters missed the point
      Its not the iPod or iTunes itself that the article criticizes, but the precedent-setting DRM technology thats being quietly accepted by the users. I have an iPod and I dont buy from the Apple store. I use my mp3, non-DRM content on the iPod and all is good. I do worry about the time when there wont be any non-DRM content. So products that further the standardization of DRM are not good for consumers. Time will tell.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Bill)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • iPod DRM not mandatory (Yet!)
      I own several generations of iPod and have not run into any DRM restrictions.  I buy my music on CD and simply rip it to either directly to high bitrate MP3 or indirectly via FLAC (a lossless codec).  I then have the freedom to do with it what I like.  I point blank refuse to buy any DRM protected music.  iTunes manages my MP3 library quite well and I can always re-rip or transcode from FLAC if I am not happy with the content.

      The time to start worrying is if DRM becomes mandatory.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Phil from OZ)
      01/06/2006
      Posts:1
  • How can be taken seriously after making these statements
    &quot... I have never been able to bring myself to download the software to purchase music through iTunes or pony up the cash to by an iPod.&quot

    Uhm to them comment on what a product can or cannot do without using them is ridiculous. I am beginning to think reviews are just words on a pc to make a deadline because there is no substative value to this whole &quottechnology review&quot unless you just call it an uninformed rant. At least EDUCATE people with SPECIFICS man. Yes, you are allowed your opinion just dont portray it as an informed one to the readers if you havent done your research.
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    Guest (Silly)
    01/04/2006
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    • When you started the interview I wanted to agree with you as I felt the same way.
      When you started the interview I wanted to agree with you as I felt the same way. I myself have been fighting the iPod band wangon. But to be honest Im disappointed if you call this professional writing. You have none of your &quotfacts&quot right at all. And if the coolest thing you do is burn the DRM back to a dvd you are an idiot. I really wish Somebody that would have done research would have written this article and made some good points.
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      Guest (James)
      01/04/2006
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      • Why must a good product be a bandwagon?
        I hear this from every non-iPod owner.  Im trying to stay off the bandwagon.

        Okay. Sure. Why?  Personally, Im trying to stay off the satellite radio bandwagon.  Come on - its technology, its reliable, and if it serves a purpose for you why avoid something.

        Or are you 15 and the cool thing some poor kid at your school started is that its cool to NOT own an iPod.  Its a bandwagon either way.  Grow up.
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        Guest (Sheldon)
        01/04/2006
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      • Why must a good product be a bandwagon?
        I hear this from every non-iPod owner.  Im trying to stay off the bandwagon.

        Okay. Sure. Why?  Personally, Im trying to stay off the satellite radio bandwagon.  Come on - its technology, its reliable, and if it serves a purpose for you why avoid something.

        Or are you 15 and the cool thing some poor kid at your school started is that its cool to NOT own an iPod.  Its a bandwagon either way.  Grow up.
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        Guest (Sheldon)
        01/04/2006
        Posts:1
    • I follow Microsoft
      Come on...  Whos going on blind faith?  Youre talking about circumventing Microsofts product flaws.  How about finding applications and an OS with far less flaws.  Yes, I switched just under a year ago and my life is better for it. 

      Too see the grammar Brad and MS Word originally let pass - check out the quoted article in its original form at http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/writer_ive_never_used_an_ipod_or_itunes_but_i_think_people_who_do_are_dupes/
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      Guest (Blind_Faith)
      01/04/2006
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    • A tiny number of facts
      1) Digital rights management is a complicated issue that many smart people have written about. You should read some of what they have written.

      2) Everybody I know who uses iTunes and an iPod uses them primarily as a way of organizing, sorting, and listening to music that they already own on CD or from some other non-iTunes Music Store source. In other words, the restrictions of the iTunes music store only matter if you use it. If you dont like em, dont use em.

      3) if you regularly back up your hard drive, you will never lose your iTunes music. If you dont, you will. Do you ask Atlantic to replace your Phil Collins CDs when your house burns down? I didnt think so. Then why is Apple responsible for your music once you purchase it?

      4) Oh never mind. Why bother....
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      Guest (rbb)
      01/04/2006
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    • read the blog entry
      this isnt a review of the iPod, read the damn blog entry. This is about the DRM and how Mac supports it to the point that it threatens becoming a standard with other systems. He is simply stating that this could be bad for consumers. &quotReview a product without purchasing&quot? trying reading before you comment.
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      Guest (youTard)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • When you started the interview I wanted to agree with you as I felt the same way.
      When you started the interview I wanted to agree with you as I felt the same way. I myself have been fighting the iPod band wangon. But to be honest Im disappointed if you call this professional writing. You have none of your &quotfacts&quot right at all. And if the coolest thing you do is burn the DRM back to a dvd you are an idiot. I really wish Somebody that would have done research would have written this article and made some good points.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (James)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • A tiny number of facts
      1) Digital rights management is a complicated issue that many smart people have written about. You should read some of what they have written.

      2) Everybody I know who uses iTunes and an iPod uses them primarily as a way of organizing, sorting, and listening to music that they already own on CD or from some other non-iTunes Music Store source. In other words, the restrictions of the iTunes music store only matter if you use it. If you dont like em, dont use em.

      3) if you regularly back up your hard drive, you will never lose your iTunes music. If you dont, you will. Do you ask Atlantic to replace your Phil Collins CDs when your house burns down? I didnt think so. Then why is Apple responsible for your music once you purchase it?

      4) Oh never mind. Why bother....
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      Guest (rbb)
      01/04/2006
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    • read the blog entry
      this isnt a review of the iPod, read the damn blog entry. This is about the DRM and how Mac supports it to the point that it threatens becoming a standard with other systems. He is simply stating that this could be bad for consumers. &quotReview a product without purchasing&quot? trying reading before you comment.
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      Guest (youTard)
      01/05/2006
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  • No forks...
    but really! To make the comments you make and admit you have no actual experience with the items you ridicule is patently asinine.
    Dont like Macs or iPods or Apple? Fine. No problem with that, but dont you at least have to have some background or experience with said product before you can bash it or even comment on its relative worth?
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    Guest (Anim8r)
    01/04/2006
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    • Dont get it...
      I see were you are coming from, but I do not understand the point you are trying to make.
      Yes, iPod and iTunes is proprietary. But so is the stereo for my BMW (does not work in my Porsche).
      Yes, if I crash my hard disk, musik that is not backed up is lost (but so was my thesis... different story).
      I would love to not be bound to the limitations you mention too, but I also enjoy listening to proper music by artist who can afford to create it.
      You blame Steve for his success?
      The bottom line for me is: The iPod and iTunes on my iMac at home and my GatesBox at the office is the fist combination that lets me buy music for a fair price which I can listen to where ever I like and share with my friends and family.
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      Guest (Seb)
      01/05/2006
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    • Are you just fishing for attention?
      Seriously whats your problem? I dont understand all the ipod and itunes knockers out there. You lose all your songs? Its called backing it up, assbag. And yes it has happened to me (a mac user) where Ive lost my itunes songs on my mac, but I had them backed up on my ipod. Are you bitching because Apple doesnt make it easy for file sharing? The napster days are over. Id rather pay 99 cents for a song that works fantastic with my mac then wake up to the FEDs at my door. Ill agree that there probably are better mp3 players out there, but they are either the size of bricks, not aesthetically pleasing, or they just dont function as flawlessly as my ipod. This whole article just seems like another PC user ill-informed and looking for a way to knock a company that is leading the market.
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      Guest (Macaholic)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Dont get it...
      I see were you are coming from, but I do not understand the point you are trying to make.
      Yes, iPod and iTunes is proprietary. But so is the stereo for my BMW (does not work in my Porsche).
      Yes, if I crash my hard disk, musik that is not backed up is lost (but so was my thesis... different story).
      I would love to not be bound to the limitations you mention too, but I also enjoy listening to proper music by artist who can afford to create it.
      You blame Steve for his success?
      The bottom line for me is: The iPod and iTunes on my iMac at home and my GatesBox at the office is the fist combination that lets me buy music for a fair price which I can listen to where ever I like and share with my friends and family.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Seb)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Are you just fishing for attention?
      Seriously whats your problem? I dont understand all the ipod and itunes knockers out there. You lose all your songs? Its called backing it up, assbag. And yes it has happened to me (a mac user) where Ive lost my itunes songs on my mac, but I had them backed up on my ipod. Are you bitching because Apple doesnt make it easy for file sharing? The napster days are over. Id rather pay 99 cents for a song that works fantastic with my mac then wake up to the FEDs at my door. Ill agree that there probably are better mp3 players out there, but they are either the size of bricks, not aesthetically pleasing, or they just dont function as flawlessly as my ipod. This whole article just seems like another PC user ill-informed and looking for a way to knock a company that is leading the market.
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      Guest (Macaholic)
      01/05/2006
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  • I follow Microsoft
    Come on...  Whos going on blind faith?  Youre talking about circumventing Microsofts product flaws.  How about finding applications and an OS with far less flaws.  Yes, I switched just under a year ago and my life is better for it. 

    Too see the grammar Brad and MS Word originally let pass - check out the quoted article in its original form at http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/writer_ive_never_used_an_ipod_or_itunes_but_i_think_people_who_do_are_dupes/
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    Guest (Blind_Faith)
    01/04/2006
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    • Lame
      Old argument, not well made to boot. Doesnt know the product, likes to criticize, and ultimately is probably one of the people who was using Napster to download 2 million songs a day illegally. Hes a holdover from the 60s rebellion. Or worse. A wannabe.
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      Guest (John)
      01/04/2006
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    • Response to update:
      It appears that you still dont get it. Nobody is overjoyed about any DRM, ever. But everybody understands that DRM schemes differ, and most find Apples scheme an acceptable trade-off for the convenience and &quotgood karma&quot of iTMS. Your thesis is that its bad for consumers, and you have no support for that thesis. Go write a proper response to the fair criticisms of your post, wherein you either repudiate your thesis or explain and support the claim that anyone is being harmed by Apples strategy.
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      Guest (Benito Topolino)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Lame
      Old argument, not well made to boot. Doesnt know the product, likes to criticize, and ultimately is probably one of the people who was using Napster to download 2 million songs a day illegally. Hes a holdover from the 60s rebellion. Or worse. A wannabe.
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      Guest (John)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Response to update:
      It appears that you still dont get it. Nobody is overjoyed about any DRM, ever. But everybody understands that DRM schemes differ, and most find Apples scheme an acceptable trade-off for the convenience and &quotgood karma&quot of iTMS. Your thesis is that its bad for consumers, and you have no support for that thesis. Go write a proper response to the fair criticisms of your post, wherein you either repudiate your thesis or explain and support the claim that anyone is being harmed by Apples strategy.
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      Guest (Benito Topolino)
      01/05/2006
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  • full of assumptions
    Brad, how can you post this on your blog? Honestly, how can you make any form of judgement without actually *using* something? I work with Macs and PCs equally all day long, so I can make a fair assessment of which platform offers a better experience for the end user. The same applies to any software or hardware device.  iTunes and iPod are king because they have delivered on their promise. Mac users just happen to understand things a bit better because we see both sides of the fence. We are forced to in this Windows-centric world. Mac fanatics take it a level further by following things very closely. I dont think thats a bad thing. Thats just different from someone like you who sees things from the outside and passes judgement.
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    Guest (Ted Wood)
    01/04/2006
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  • Mac != iPod
    First, the Mac isnt the iPod.

    Second, you dont have to use any DRM to use an iPod. You can rip non-DRMed CDs and load the music onto an iPod.

    Third, you can back up your hard drive. Apple gives away its Backup software. They also encourage you to back up your music. If you dont, thats your own fault.

    Fourth, Apples FairPlay is probably the least restrictive DRM out there. Rather than dragging consumers into restrictive DRM, Apple has bargained to get digital music out there as an alternative to more restrictive DRM.

    So, there. All your arguments are refuted and I can stick a fork in them (as in &quotdone&quot.)
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    Guest (soft_guy)
    01/04/2006
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  • So much of this is BS...
    Even my music without DRM is lost if my computer crashes... Have you heard of backing up.

    Apple, iPod and the Mac are not perfect... But they are better than almost all the rest.

    But hey, You are getting the hits to your web site just like you intended...  I say bravo for knowing how to pull in the traffic...

    Other than that, I can not believe someone gave you a place to write your flawed opinion.
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    Guest (BackingUp)
    01/04/2006
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    • B. King fails TR readers and fails good logic
      If I understand you correctly, you are only really bothered that Apple users do not have the same problem as you regarding the novel and pioneering approach Steve Jobs has taken to create the number one, most hassle-free, most comprehsive, most current, most artist-friendly, online music/video/movie store ever know in the history of the world.  This is ridiculous.  I expect better journalism from TR... even in Blog format.

      BTW: Double check your facts about licensing restrictions and consequences of HDD crashes on music files.  Indeed, I believe an official correction is in order here.
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      Guest (Runnerstrom)
      01/08/2006
      Posts:1
    • B.King fails TR Readers & fails good logic.
      If I understand you correctly, you are only really bothered that Apple users do not have the same problem as you regarding the novel and pioneering approach Steve Jobs has taken to create the number one, most hassle-free, most comprehsive, most current, most artist-friendly, online music/video/movie store ever know in the history of the world.  This is ridiculous.  I expect better journalism from TR... even in Blog format.

      BTW: Double check your facts about licensing restrictions and consequences of HDD crashes on music files.  Indeed, I believe an official correction is in order here.
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      Guest (Runnerstrom)
      01/08/2006
      Posts:1
    • B.King fails TR readers & fails good logic.
      If I understand you correctly, you are only really bothered that Apple users do not have the same problem as you regarding the novel and pioneering approach Steve Jobs has taken to create the number one, most hassle-free, most comprehsive, most current, most artist-friendly, online music/video/movie store ever know in the history of the world.  This is ridiculous.  I expect better journalism from TR... even in Blog format.

      BTW: Double check your facts about licensing restrictions and consequences of HDD crashes on music files.  Indeed, I believe an official correction is in order here.
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      Guest (Runnerstrom)
      01/08/2006
      Posts:1
    • B. King fails TR readers and fails good logic
      If I understand you correctly, you are only really bothered that Apple users do not have the same problem as you regarding the novel and pioneering approach Steve Jobs has taken to create the number one, most hassle-free, most comprehsive, most current, most artist-friendly, online music/video/movie store ever know in the history of the world.  This is ridiculous.  I expect better journalism from TR... even in Blog format.

      BTW: Double check your facts about licensing restrictions and consequences of HDD crashes on music files.  Indeed, I believe an official correction is in order here.
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      Guest (Runnerstrom)
      01/08/2006
      Posts:1
    • B.King fails TR Readers & fails good logic.
      If I understand you correctly, you are only really bothered that Apple users do not have the same problem as you regarding the novel and pioneering approach Steve Jobs has taken to create the number one, most hassle-free, most comprehsive, most current, most artist-friendly, online music/video/movie store ever know in the history of the world.  This is ridiculous.  I expect better journalism from TR... even in Blog format.

      BTW: Double check your facts about licensing restrictions and consequences of HDD crashes on music files.  Indeed, I believe an official correction is in order here.
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      Guest (Runnerstrom)
      01/08/2006
      Posts:1
  • Weird article this?!
    You normally back up your iTunes music, so dont lose it in a crash. Only music bought from iTunes has a restriction -- meanwhile my whole CD collection is now in a getatable condition and mobile too! Sorry about you, but... its neat, tidy and plays my vids now!
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    Guest (DJ)
    01/04/2006
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    • This is a masterpiece!!!
      Wow -this is the most enlightening article on the iPod/iTunes that Ive ever read.  Im going to immediately sell, no, throw away my iPod and probably get rid of my PowerBook too.  Im deleting my extremely restrictive collection of music too.  Bye bye iTunes.  I must admit that I never really liked how easy and inexpensive it was to find and download music.  I mean, Id much rather spend an inordinate amount of time searching for programmers to help me strip the DRM from protected content. Copyright schmopyright!

      To the author - great job on the article!  Im assuming that your follow up will discuss all of the Microsoft-friendly alternatives that I can purchase now that Ive abandoned all things Apple simply because you think were all idiots.
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      Guest (pod_drone)
      01/04/2006
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    • Backing up DRMed music files
      iTunes will burn your DRMed music files to a CD so you can reinstall them to a new HD when the old one dies. No problem.

      Only an idiot wouldnt back up purchased music. You back up illegally downloaded music files dont you?
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      Guest (Al)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • This is a masterpiece!!!
      Wow -this is the most enlightening article on the iPod/iTunes that Ive ever read.  Im going to immediately sell, no, throw away my iPod and probably get rid of my PowerBook too.  Im deleting my extremely restrictive collection of music too.  Bye bye iTunes.  I must admit that I never really liked how easy and inexpensive it was to find and download music.  I mean, Id much rather spend an inordinate amount of time searching for programmers to help me strip the DRM from protected content. Copyright schmopyright!

      To the author - great job on the article!  Im assuming that your follow up will discuss all of the Microsoft-friendly alternatives that I can purchase now that Ive abandoned all things Apple simply because you think were all idiots.
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      Guest (pod_drone)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Backing up DRMed music files
      iTunes will burn your DRMed music files to a CD so you can reinstall them to a new HD when the old one dies. No problem.

      Only an idiot wouldnt back up purchased music. You back up illegally downloaded music files dont you?
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      Guest (Al)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
  • wow...
    We are dupes for using good software.. Well then, sir, your a $hithead for using Windows. How can you make such a claim when you do not explore alternatives and keep using software just because everyone else does? Microsofts licensing agreements are tighter than a Nuns.... If you catch my drift. Get a life.
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    Guest (ths)
    01/04/2006
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    • So into
      The DRM that Jobs negotiated was much more liberal than anything else available at the time (and that is pretty much still the case). Your argument isnt really with Jobs, iPods or iTunes, it with the very idea of DRM and Intellectual Rights.

      There is a bit of a performative contradiction here. You appear to be &quotso into&quot free media, that you cant appreciate the compromise that was required to allow legal (and easy) downloading of music.
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      Guest (ADeweyan)
      01/04/2006
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    • So into
      The DRM that Jobs negotiated was much more liberal than anything else available at the time (and that is pretty much still the case). Your argument isnt really with Jobs, iPods or iTunes, it with the very idea of DRM and Intellectual Rights.

      There is a bit of a performative contradiction here. You appear to be &quotso into&quot free media, that you cant appreciate the compromise that was required to allow legal (and easy) downloading of music.
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      Guest (ADeweyan)
      01/04/2006
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  • Keep Backups!
    iTunes DRM allows for a certain number of audio burns, and nothing prevents you from backing up your data--dont blame Apple for your bad habits.  Oh, I lost a Word document when my PC crashed I wonder if Microsoft will compensate me?  Same deal, and it sounds ridiculous.
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    Guest (KSF)
    01/04/2006
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  • No forks, but...
    Do you have this logic(?) in other areas of your life? You purchase a shirt, wear it a while, and tear it or spill something that makes a terrible stain that cant be removed. Does whoever you buy your shirts from give you a new one? If so, let me know, Ive got a few shirts Id like replaced.

    I back up my music. So should they.
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    Guest (jocareed)
    01/04/2006
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  • Apple - a pragmatic love
    I cant agree more with that point of view. But Apple makes it way where the others failled and at least it gives us access to music online and open a breach. whats next ? it isnt perfect but it exists.
    Whats else ? tiger, the macs familly. nothing perfect but do we get windows without he Mac in 1984 certainly not. Inovation comes at a price, even hight when it is in fierce business time. but freedom and equity always triomphe.
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    Guest (jerome)
    01/04/2006
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  • off the mark
    Brad, youre off the mark. Consumers prefer the iPod over all other digital music players, thus the major market share iPods enjoy. Apple (Jobs) has shown the music and now, film industries that people are willing to pay for virus-free content.

    Consumer rights? What are you talking about? If I buy a song from the iTunes Music Store, Im not having to buy an entire album, nor am I concerned about dloading a virus. I am also supporting the creators (musicians, actors, engineers, etc. etc.) of the content - more so than if I were to buy an album or if I was freeloading using a P2P service.

    Have fun ripping your DVDs. Ive got better things to do.
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    Guest (P Degner)
    01/04/2006
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  • Who care if the iPod is cute
    I agree with Brad! Sometimes theres nothing like being compatible with the rest of the world.
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    Guest (Susan)
    01/04/2006
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    • Now tell Napster, etc to make an Apple Version...
      Exactly, iTunes and the iPod work with a Windows PC. Yet, I cant use Napster because they dont make a version for the Mac.

      By the way, I sure wish I could get a Toyota engine in a Honda Accord body...  That would be great.

      Wake up and look around.  Your view is skewed.
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      Guest (IAgree)
      01/04/2006
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    • What is wrong with you people?
      You guys are debating the love of the ipod over and are apparently make a direct relation with iTunes and copyright management. iTunes is not an iPod specific device, so why is a consumers &quotlove&quot for it relevant to the conversation? You mac-tards just wait for any kind of anti-Mac stuff and jump all over it spewing profanities about windows and how cool the iPod is, figure it our for christ sake, this is about business practice. Its more of an attack on Jobs decisions then the actual mac. no one cares about your iPod, this should be about property rights. All i see are people throwing names around like a rabid monkey without a diaper. Stick to the subject if you expect to make a relevant comment.
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      Guest (FigureItOut)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Replace Apple with All Online Music Retailers
      Its not that I disagree, but if Mr King was being entirely fair he would have included all major online music retailers as being slave to the Record Labels as opposed to bashing just the largest retailer.  Mr King could have made a legitimate point, but instead chose to take a swing at Apple instead.  For shame, this is a cheap way to get readership and build notoriety, and you do a great disservice to all of us who would like to see DRM-free media files for sale in the future.
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      Guest (JohnK)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Replace Apple with All Online Music Retailers
      Its not that I disagree, but if Mr King was being entirely fair he would have included all major online music retailers as being slave to the Record Labels as opposed to bashing just the largest retailer.  Mr King could have made a legitimate point, but instead chose to take a swing at Apple instead.  For shame, this is a cheap way to get readership and build notoriety, and you do a great disservice to all of us who would like to see DRM-free media files for sale in the future.
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      Guest (JohnK)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Now tell Napster, etc to make an Apple Version...
      Exactly, iTunes and the iPod work with a Windows PC. Yet, I cant use Napster because they dont make a version for the Mac.

      By the way, I sure wish I could get a Toyota engine in a Honda Accord body...  That would be great.

      Wake up and look around.  Your view is skewed.
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      Guest (IAgree)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • What is wrong with you people?
      You guys are debating the love of the ipod over and are apparently make a direct relation with iTunes and copyright management. iTunes is not an iPod specific device, so why is a consumers &quotlove&quot for it relevant to the conversation? You mac-tards just wait for any kind of anti-Mac stuff and jump all over it spewing profanities about windows and how cool the iPod is, figure it our for christ sake, this is about business practice. Its more of an attack on Jobs decisions then the actual mac. no one cares about your iPod, this should be about property rights. All i see are people throwing names around like a rabid monkey without a diaper. Stick to the subject if you expect to make a relevant comment.
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      Guest (FigureItOut)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Replace Apple with All Online Music Retailers
      Its not that I disagree, but if Mr King was being entirely fair he would have included all major online music retailers as being slave to the Record Labels as opposed to bashing just the largest retailer.  Mr King could have made a legitimate point, but instead chose to take a swing at Apple instead.  For shame, this is a cheap way to get readership and build notoriety, and you do a great disservice to all of us who would like to see DRM-free media files for sale in the future.
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      Guest (JohnK)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
  • Brad King discourages best practices
    Breaking News: If your hard disk drive crashes, you could lose your data, including music purchased with iTunes.

    Brad King does not understand the concept of backing up your data, as the iTunes application suggests to the user periodically.  My advice is to make regular backup copies of your files, and ignore Brad Kings dubious advice.  He is a rank amateur who isnt qualified to give advice about Macs, iPods or computers in general.
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    Guest (The Observer)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • consider
      There are so many things wrong with your blog try this: no DRM, no music store the iPod is popular because it is easy to use, iTunes is easy to use, and they are well designed and work together Apple has a help page that tells you how to back up your DRM/downloaded songs, which are the ones you would lose if your system crashes--all the others can be ripped again. Seriously, have a moral/ethical issue with DRM but dont bag on something youve never used
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      Guest (Pete)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • consider
      There are so many things wrong with your blog try this: no DRM, no music store the iPod is popular because it is easy to use, iTunes is easy to use, and they are well designed and work together Apple has a help page that tells you how to back up your DRM/downloaded songs, which are the ones you would lose if your system crashes--all the others can be ripped again. Seriously, have a moral/ethical issue with DRM but dont bag on something youve never used
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      Guest (Pete)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
  • Backups dummy
    I lost interest in your article as soon as you said &quotIts fairly well publicized that if you have music on your hard drive, music youve purchased a license to use through iTunes, and your computer crashes -- you lose all of that music.&quot Not true, I have backed up my iTunes music, rebuilt my computer several times, reloaded those files and went on my merry way. Also, there are 3rd party product that will rip the DRM out of your Apple iTunes files. Do some research before saying ignorant things.
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    Guest (will)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • All those CDs I burned?
    Now Im going to have to cancel my subscription to TR if they let admittedly uninformed writers spew this nonsense. iTunes has the least restrictive DRM Ive seen.
    But please dont bother to actually use something before you offer such a qualified opinion. Hearsay is so much more convincing. Shame on TR for allowing this drivel.

    Brad: Guess what my CD player is loaded with in my car? Give up? Legally burned CDs of all of the songs I bought from the iTunes Music Store. Do you know what else thats called? BACKUP! It was simple to do and practical. http://www.apple.com/itunes/burn/ You need to have that craw looked at by a professional.
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    Guest (Dave)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • Youre a Poster Boy for the ENTITLEMENT Generation
      When one buys a product and/or service, they accept the terms of the transaction - in totum!

      Bitching about DRM exudes a Marxist naivete: as if there really is no such thing as property rights.

      Just because you grew up consuming Disney videos for FREE, doesnt mean that there is a FREE component to ALL things that you consider consuming.

      The reason the world now has portable media consumption of intellectual property is BECAUSE there is DRM technology.

      Get over it and pony up, boy....
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      Guest (Ranger Lefty)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Youre a Poster Boy for the ENTITLEMENT Generation
      When one buys a product and/or service, they accept the terms of the transaction - in totum!

      Bitching about DRM exudes a Marxist naivete: as if there really is no such thing as property rights.

      Just because you grew up consuming Disney videos for FREE, doesnt mean that there is a FREE component to ALL things that you consider consuming.

      The reason the world now has portable media consumption of intellectual property is BECAUSE there is DRM technology.

      Get over it and pony up, boy....
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      Guest (Ranger Lefty)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Youre a Poster Boy for the ENTITLEMENT Generation
      When one buys a product and/or service, they accept the terms of the transaction - in totum!

      Bitching about DRM exudes a Marxist naivete: as if there really is no such thing as property rights.

      Just because you grew up consuming Disney videos for FREE, doesnt mean that there is a FREE component to ALL things that you consider consuming.

      The reason the world now has portable media consumption of intellectual property is BECAUSE there is DRM technology.

      Get over it and pony up, boy....
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      Guest (Ranger Lefty)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
  • Moving forward...
    So the alternative is? Should we all go back to cassettes? Also, you are willing to &quothack the DRM&quot on your Windows machine, but are unwilling to simply burn iTMS songs onto a CD to remove their DRM? Sounds like complaining simply for complainings sake (or do you just like the attention?). And just to be clear, I am NOT defending Apple. I am challenging your ridiculous, un-objective, irrational arguments. Dispite your little disclaimer, I believe you were in fact looking to pick a fight. (BTW: If I lose my book in a fire, will Barnes and Noble give me a new one? No! So why should Apple expend resource in the form of servers, bandwidth, etc, to replace your songs if YOU lose them? Sure, it would be a nice perk if they did. But I dont see how you can knock them for it if they dont.)
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    Guest (JF)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • ITunes Music Store
    1. Make a backup
    2. You have 5 licenses to put your purchased music on 5 different machines
    3. Which music player could possibly be better than an iPod? Explain.
    So whats the point of your article?
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    Guest (KO)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • Heres how this works...
    A journalist realizes he needs to write something, so he figures its close to Macworld, Ill write a quick piece of Apple flamebait and get tons of exposure. (Of course, its inaccurate as well as being flamebait, but hey...John Dvoraks made a veritable career out of this.)

    For the record- Apple Music Store files can be converted to mp3 or burned to CD as audio, can be backed up, can be played on multiple computers, and can even be recovered from your iPod (assuming your hard drvie crashes- I had to do this once) through one of those hacks that you seem to think are acceptable when it comes to Microsoft.
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    Guest (eponymous coward)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • time to send a letter to the editor
      send letter to the editor if he is this mistaken.


      Which he is.   I sent a polite, nice letter, noting the innacuracies.  Maybe MIT has an Ombudsman that can have a chat with this guy.
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      Guest (dbcoyle)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • time to send a letter to the editor
      send letter to the editor if he is this mistaken.


      Which he is.   I sent a polite, nice letter, noting the innacuracies.  Maybe MIT has an Ombudsman that can have a chat with this guy.
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      Guest (dbcoyle)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
  • You are so ignorant it amazes me...
    Well, not really... Youre just very BAD !, and this the internet , right ?. So a complete fool like yourself can blabber about something he doesnt know.
    Journalism today is waking up in the morning and thinking : &quot Hey I can post a piece today about this ...and that... and get paid at the end of the month&quot...
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    Guest (Nuno Sousa)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • Back to reality
      The Apple DRM is unusually (and probably unnecessarily) restrictive. Apple should at least permit re-downloads of lost music. Frankly, they should follow other industry players, many of which permit free(er) movement of the files.

      And FYI, Ive been a Mac user since 1985.
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      Guest (M3Mania)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Back to reality
      The Apple DRM is unusually (and probably unnecessarily) restrictive. Apple should at least permit re-downloads of lost music. Frankly, they should follow other industry players, many of which permit free(er) movement of the files.

      And FYI, Ive been a Mac user since 1985.
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      Guest (M3Mania)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
  • Apple didnt CHOOSE to apply DRM
    Simply, the labels would not allow download stores to sell unprotected music, it would end up on bittorrent and other P2P services as soon as it was purchased and downloaded. iTunes has the most liberal usage rights of any of the legal download services Napster, Rhapsody, Yahoo etc. iPod + iTunes is the best SOLUTION the combination of hardware + software. All the reviews agree. Its very easy to bash the market leader but remember this is little old Apple, the company those demise has been predicted for the last 10 years. They have changed the face of digital music, something other parties had struggled to do.
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    Guest (Si)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • Not fair, but dont yell at him
    I have to respect your writing this, but you write from an uninformed position.  You admit never owning an iPod or downloading and using iTunes.  Are you really in a position to judge either product?  I know people who felt the way you did, and then they tried both and FELL IN LOVE with them.  Its not right to say were losing out when you have no idea what our experience is.
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    Guest (Bryan)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • another of the Ive never used a Mac but so called writers
    Its amazing how so many of these self annoited &quotexperts&quot admit thatve never used a Mac, dont have an iPod and still they trumpmet that Apple is BAD - Microsoft is THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD!
    And my first thought is always - is he/she that stupid or is the payoff that much that he/she is willing to sink to that level and deliberately show their ignorance or obiedience to Microsoft!
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    Guest (Chris)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • Brad King Breaks the Law by Circumventing DRM
    How are Apples DRM practices any different (if not better) than other schemes? Its by far less hassle to buy, download, and use my music than any other platform.

    Are you advocating deliberate hacking of Windows DRM? You can easily burn a CD and rerip to iTunes without that army of programmers...

    Data loss will occur regardless if you have products with DRM or not...

    Looks like this was just a blog to promote your, funnily enough, iPod Google ads...
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    Guest (Jeff)
    01/04/2006
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    • Lost music was restored with a phone call
      Hey Brad:
      Wrong statement 1: I actually did have a crash that was bad enough to cause me to lose about a dozen purchased CDs. I made a phone call, taked to a sympathetic Apple employee and got the purchaseed music reauthorized and was able to get them again (which was how I learned about backup). Learn before you speak I guess...
      And Microsoft isbetter, nicer, whatever because they have more people hacking thier device? These same loving dependable folks that drop viruses in all of those DRM circumvented programs? Thats good? Whoa...
      And of course ttheres always the beauty of the blogger who doesnt bother to provide an email for comment back-Brave Windows User!
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      Guest (David)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Lost music was restored with a phone call
      Hey Brad:
      Wrong statement 1: I actually did have a crash that was bad enough to cause me to lose about a dozen purchased CDs. I made a phone call, taked to a sympathetic Apple employee and got the purchaseed music reauthorized and was able to get them again (which was how I learned about backup). Learn before you speak I guess...
      And Microsoft isbetter, nicer, whatever because they have more people hacking thier device? These same loving dependable folks that drop viruses in all of those DRM circumvented programs? Thats good? Whoa...
      And of course ttheres always the beauty of the blogger who doesnt bother to provide an email for comment back-Brave Windows User!
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      Guest (David)
      01/04/2006
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  • This is surely a Joke.
    This is simply an untruthful story. Brad, go out and get en iPod. Try it.

    Then come back and tell us your experience. Until then, please shut up.
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    Guest (Bill)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • Qualifications?
      So one is qualified to form an opinion on something without any firsthand knowledge nor understanding of said thing?   True.   Its a great country.   But getting paid to do so?  A bit stupid.  Suddenly, the MIT Tech Review page has lost a serious chunk of credibility. 

      Oh, was recently a windows user, but switched.  I actually tried the stuff out, then made a decision.   ...sheesh...
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      Guest (dbcoyle)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
    • Qualifications?
      So one is qualified to form an opinion on something without any firsthand knowledge nor understanding of said thing?   True.   Its a great country.   But getting paid to do so?  A bit stupid.  Suddenly, the MIT Tech Review page has lost a serious chunk of credibility. 

      Oh, was recently a windows user, but switched.  I actually tried the stuff out, then made a decision.   ...sheesh...
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      Guest (dbcoyle)
      01/04/2006
      Posts:1
  • Youre allowed your opinions, of course
    But its a lot more credible if you know what youre talking about.

    First, youve never bought or used an iPod or iTunes? And yet, youre sure its awful.

    Second, an editor at your magazine &quotnearly&quot lost all his music when his computer crashed. Ever heard of backups? I am not sure what the objection is here.

    This artiicle amounts to: &quotI dont like iTunes or the iPod, so it sucks.&quot

    Something like 75% of all people who buy music online or use a music player disagree with you. Given the substantive mistakes in this article, you might want to look into this a little more...
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    Guest (Anonymous Coward)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • backups
      Apple will restore all music bought through the iTunes music store if there is data loss....its on file....and linked to your username.  All you need is your username and password, and apples phone #.
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      Guest (realism)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • backups
      Apple will restore all music bought through the iTunes music store if there is data loss....its on file....and linked to your username.  All you need is your username and password, and apples phone #.
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      Guest (realism)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Please explain, how is this bad?
      You said: &quotJobs deal with the entertainment industry and its DRM practices are bad for consumers.&quot How many times have you paid 15-20$ for an album that only has two or three good songs on it? Apple solves that problem for the consumer. The RIAA wants Apple to bow down and accept the changes THEY want made, Jobs tells them to screw themselves, he wont let them screw his customers (variable pricing so the RIAA can make more money off of &quothot&quot songs) on a whim. How is this &quotbad&quot for us consumers? How does his standing up and offering us viable legal alternatives to piracy make things worse for us? You say the DRM is bad? How so? Ive lost my music collection and Apple restored it for me free of charge because I had my tower in for service at one point after my drives had crashed. How is this bad? You really dont get it at all and the sooner you realize that, the better off well all be.
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      Guest (J242)
      01/09/2006
      Posts:1
  • Inaccuracies
    Im no Apple sycophant, but you are way off base.  iTunes works beautifully for Mac and PC users (I use both versions).

    Had you ever used an iPod or iTunes, you would know that the Apple DRM is very easy to circumvent without any fancy software, etc.  Im no pirate, but I easily share new iTunes music with friends that often results in them purchasing music themselves.

    As for losing music, ever heard of backing up your data?
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    Guest (Richard)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • go to hell
    see subject
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    Guest (big tex)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • Do you know what the restriction are?
    You talk of DRM restriction, yet you dont list one example of this &quotrestrictive&quot grip Apple has on the users of iPod and iTunes.

    List them... Its not fair to viewers who are not familiar with these restrictions. Why not list them and let the readers judge for themselves. I bet you dont even know it.

    Unlike you, I know what the restrictions are and I have no problems with them.
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    Guest (em)
    01/04/2006
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  • TR is written by dips##t journalists,
    Im surprised MIT allows their name to be tortured by journalists/idiots.  Why not have real engineers write the articles instead of media people with, as always, an agenda.
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    Guest (a real engineer)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • You obviously havent done your homework
      The fact that you root for the cincinnati reds shouldve been a clue as to your cluelessness, Mr King. You obviously havent done your homework. Apple keeps track of all your itunes downloads. If your computer crashes or gets stolen, theyll let you redownload everything youve already purchased.

      One other thing, only ipods let you rip your data at real CD rates, meaning you can actually listen to full spectrum audio. Try that with your Creative labs stuff.
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      Guest (Mary Pranxter)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • You obviously havent done your homework
      The fact that you root for the cincinnati reds shouldve been a clue as to your cluelessness, Mr King. You obviously havent done your homework. Apple keeps track of all your itunes downloads. If your computer crashes or gets stolen, theyll let you redownload everything youve already purchased.

      One other thing, only ipods let you rip your data at real CD rates, meaning you can actually listen to full spectrum audio. Try that with your Creative labs stuff.
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      Guest (Mary Pranxter)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
  • DRM is all the labels will let us get away with
    How can Apples DRM be blamed on Jobs? DRM is good only because at least we can legally download music which I vastly prefer to buying CDs. I have not found it the least bit restrictive. The labels will not support any program that doesnt have a good DRM Brad! Shame on you for trying to gain some publicity by slamming something popular.
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    Guest (Don )
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • Opinions based on... what?
    It seems like you have based all of your opinions on what other people have written?  You say you dont like something, that you have never used.  This is shoddy work.  I dont care what field you work in, it is unacceptable.
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    Guest (db)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
  • wow.... are you off base
    there are just too many assumptions to discredit. I use both windows and mac... why someone would keep music without backups is not only stupid, but foolhardy in the least. You can use the songs from ITunes on 5 different machines.....

    listen, you seem like a nice guy from your follow up post. But writing an article without actually using the software or hardware youre writing about is a bit less that good journalism dont you think?

    Do youre homework before you write next time. There are a ton of us out here who use both platforms, and like them for what they bring to the table, writing like this is a disservice
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    Guest (Jim)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • Cmon man, Apple works!
      (first) back up your music! buy a 200GB external HD for $100 and clone your main HD.  becuase its Apple, its easy to do and there are all kinds of options.

      (second) there are legions of Linux and Unix developers writing VERY good FREE (did I mention free?) software that does anything you want (Sourceforge, etc.), even share music among DIFFERENT ipods - if circumventing DRM is your thing

      (third) rent or own music? which is better - I think the latter for sure

      (last) the human interface and attention to design are the hallmarks of Apple. rarely am I dissatisfied as an Apple user. I know no one who loves PC (really), but there are legions who settle
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      Guest (Brian)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Cmon man, Apple works!
      (first) back up your music! buy a 200GB external HD for $100 and clone your main HD.  becuase its Apple, its easy to do and there are all kinds of options.

      (second) there are legions of Linux and Unix developers writing VERY good FREE (did I mention free?) software that does anything you want (Sourceforge, etc.), even share music among DIFFERENT ipods - if circumventing DRM is your thing

      (third) rent or own music? which is better - I think the latter for sure

      (last) the human interface and attention to design are the hallmarks of Apple. rarely am I dissatisfied as an Apple user. I know no one who loves PC (really), but there are legions who settle
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      Guest (Brian)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • ignorance is not bliss,when ur an idiot
      what the?
      &quotIts fairly [blah.. blah..blah..] computer crashes -- you lose all of that music. Its not a common occurrence  [blah..blah.blah.&quot ]

      You are free to back up your purchased songs to any media you like or copying them to any number of computers. FairPlay doesnt restrict you from doing that. 

      If your computer crashs u might loose your data.. well der... Einstein, If my house burn down i would loose my furniture, unfortunately i cant back furniture up can I?

      In fact you can even burn your music to a standard CD that you can play in any CD player. Fairplay DRM allows u to own the music, not borrow it.
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      Guest (ken masters)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Jobs as proxy
      Jobs has NOT become a proxy for the music industry. In case you havent been here in the real world, the music industry wants variable (read: more expensive) pricing on iTunes downloads. Jobs wants to keep it at 0.99 cents per song.

      How do you figure that Jobs is not looking out for your rights as a consumer?
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      Guest (Steve)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Jobs as proxy
      Jobs has NOT become a proxy for the music industry. In case you havent been here in the real world, the music industry wants variable (read: more expensive) pricing on iTunes downloads. Jobs wants to keep it at 0.99 cents per song.

      How do you figure that Jobs is not looking out for your rights as a consumer?
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      Guest (Steve)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Jobs as proxy
      Jobs has NOT become a proxy for the music industry. In case you havent been here in the real world, the music industry wants variable (read: more expensive) pricing on iTunes downloads. Jobs wants to keep it at 0.99 cents per song.

      How do you figure that Jobs is not looking out for your rights as a consumer?
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      Guest (Steve)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Cmon man, Apple works!
      (first) back up your music! buy a 200GB external HD for $100 and clone your main HD.  becuase its Apple, its easy to do and there are all kinds of options.

      (second) there are legions of Linux and Unix developers writing VERY good FREE (did I mention free?) software that does anything you want (Sourceforge, etc.), even share music among DIFFERENT ipods - if circumventing DRM is your thing

      (third) rent or own music? which is better - I think the latter for sure

      (last) the human interface and attention to design are the hallmarks of Apple. rarely am I dissatisfied as an Apple user. I know no one who loves PC (really), but there are legions who settle
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      Guest (Brian)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • ignorance is not bliss,when ur an idiot
      what the?
      &quotIts fairly [blah.. blah..blah..] computer crashes -- you lose all of that music. Its not a common occurrence  [blah..blah.blah.&quot ]

      You are free to back up your purchased songs to any media you like or copying them to any number of computers. FairPlay doesnt restrict you from doing that. 

      If your computer crashs u might loose your data.. well der... Einstein, If my house burn down i would loose my furniture, unfortunately i cant back furniture up can I?

      In fact you can even burn your music to a standard CD that you can play in any CD player. Fairplay DRM allows u to own the music, not borrow it.
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      Guest (ken masters)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Jobs as proxy
      Jobs has NOT become a proxy for the music industry. In case you havent been here in the real world, the music industry wants variable (read: more expensive) pricing on iTunes downloads. Jobs wants to keep it at 0.99 cents per song.

      How do you figure that Jobs is not looking out for your rights as a consumer?
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      Guest (Steve)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
  • Concerned about you breaking DRM
    I am very concerned that you admit to breaking DRM and therefore the DMCA.  You should be more responsible and respect the rights of the copyright owners to use DRM to protect their intellectual property.  If you do not agree with them, do not use their product.  Do NOT steal from the artists and to not promote that others should as well.  This is irresponsible if not criminal.
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    Guest (Joe)
    01/04/2006
    Posts:1
    • cant post
      This is pissing me off I cant get my post to post.
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      Guest (cant post)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • cant post
      This is pissing me off I cant get my post to post.
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      Guest (cant post)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
  • Limewire
    Hey you, I respect you and you are entitled to your views. After spending almost 500+ bucks buying songs at the itunes store, I simply bought Limewire (the pro version), look up tunes at their store then download them for free. Take care now.
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    Guest (James)
    01/05/2006
    Posts:1
    • it does the job
      ive been using iTunes for years....to organize my 128 Gigs of mp3/ogg/aac/wav/aiff...and now / avi libraries.  Ive had absolutely no problems, and the software has actually organized everything better than I did.  Whats the problem exactly?  iTunes doesnt stop me from importing non-drm files....it just gives me the option to put drm-ed files in my library if I want.  so wheres the problem?
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      Guest (realism)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Brad (& Limewire James) rationalizations
      Its OK for Brad to break the law and circumvent DRM, but not OK for Apple to provide legal options for honest people? And Limewire James (above) doesnt know the meaning of the word respect (as in copyright law and the property of others).
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      Guest (Geo)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • R U People Nuts?
      Stick it to the fascist capitalistic pigs, power to the serfs!

      Get an EXISTENCE people!
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      Guest (CryptoZ)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • it does the job
      ive been using iTunes for years....to organize my 128 Gigs of mp3/ogg/aac/wav/aiff...and now / avi libraries.  Ive had absolutely no problems, and the software has actually organized everything better than I did.  Whats the problem exactly?  iTunes doesnt stop me from importing non-drm files....it just gives me the option to put drm-ed files in my library if I want.  so wheres the problem?
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      Guest (realism)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Brad (& Limewire James) rationalizations
      Its OK for Brad to break the law and circumvent DRM, but not OK for Apple to provide legal options for honest people? And Limewire James (above) doesnt know the meaning of the word respect (as in copyright law and the property of others).
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      Guest (Geo)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • R U People Nuts?
      Stick it to the fascist capitalistic pigs, power to the serfs!

      Get an EXISTENCE people!
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      Guest (CryptoZ)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
  • Real, MSN Music etc.. do not support Macs
    Which consumers would these be that are harmed? The millions of windows users that &quotchoose&quot the ipod and iTMS over WMA stores?

    How are mac users harmed by supporting iTMS when none of the WMA based store can support mac users anyway? MSFT has no interest in updating WMP for OSX because they want to lock people into their platform.
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    Guest (Aristotle)
    01/05/2006
    Posts:1
  • Septic
    Wow. Do you Septics in the US pay people for this writing this uninformed drivel? Sign me up, I want his job !

    (Dont know what Septic means? Look to the Uk)
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    Guest (Limey)
    01/05/2006
    Posts:1
    • Discuss Board tree-view is cr@p
      Your discussion board tree view is royally screwed. Perhaps you should start by &quotReview&quoting your own &quotTechnology&quot.
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      Guest (Dalek)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • I cant even read the post I just made...
      ...about how bad the treeview code is. Its unreadable because the code is so bad. Now thats funny!
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      Guest (Dalek)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • So Microsoft has a better DRM Policy?
      I could perhaps understand this arguement if it were being made by a Linux supporter. But how exactly is Microsoft better, when they are supporting efforts to built a so-called Trusted Computing Platform that would require every computer and electronic device to incorporate copy protection? And how is the DRM in Windows Media Player less restrictive than that in iTunes and iPod? iTunes and iPod are the most popular products for the oddest reason -- they work the best. This stands in stark contrast to Windows, which is one of the worst operating systems in modern use, yet is the most popular. Oh well.
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      Guest (Raving Apple Lunatic)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Discuss Board tree-view is cr@p
      Your discussion board tree view is royally screwed. Perhaps you should start by &quotReview&quoting your own &quotTechnology&quot.
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      Guest (Dalek)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • I cant even read the post I just made...
      ...about how bad the treeview code is. Its unreadable because the code is so bad. Now thats funny!
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      Guest (Dalek)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • So Microsoft has a better DRM Policy?
      I could perhaps understand this arguement if it were being made by a Linux supporter. But how exactly is Microsoft better, when they are supporting efforts to built a so-called Trusted Computing Platform that would require every computer and electronic device to incorporate copy protection? And how is the DRM in Windows Media Player less restrictive than that in iTunes and iPod? iTunes and iPod are the most popular products for the oddest reason -- they work the best. This stands in stark contrast to Windows, which is one of the worst operating systems in modern use, yet is the most popular. Oh well.
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      Guest (Raving Apple Lunatic)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
  • Knob factor
    Hey King you have a knob factor off the charts buddy. what a fool.
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    Guest (Carlo)
    01/05/2006
    Posts:1
    • I like this entry.
      I think this is a good change from having everyone knock Microsoft, and youre completely right too. I cant wait to get this to my mac friends. Then again, not liking macs and iPods has put many forks in my back allready. Well, not that many compared to you now :)
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      Guest (Mr X)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Apologies
      First, Brad, apologies from a bi-systemal, Mac prefering guy.  I love Apple and Macs, but feel really bad when others who do resort to name calling in defense of that devotion.

      Second, I truly find Microsofts DRM to be far more restrictive than Apples.  Even with the videos I have downloaded from iTMS, I can save them elsewhere (cd, dvd, another harddrive) without any circumvention of the DRM.  I think Jobs has gone to bat for the consumers.  If the RIAA and MPAA hop into bed with Gates, he wont care how much leverage they have over the consumer - it seems to be his favorite pastime to gain an advantage over those who give him money for product.

      Hopefully, civil discussion can continue and we can learn to disagree and still go out for a beer after!
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      Guest (grshaner)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • History lesson.
      Back in the early 80s, DRM was pioneered by software companies that made games for computers.  They did things like shipping floppies with known bad sectors, duplicate sectors, and such that the software could look for, preventing simple copying of the disc to an unmodified blank disc.  Later, a company called Macrovision became the leader in DRM, creating, among other things, the technology that makes copying a DVD to VHS end up virtually unviewable.  DRM is not a new phenomenon, and the entertainment industry has come to expect that new media forms will have stronger DRM than previous ones.

      You say, &quotAnd -- for everyone who shells out their hard-earned money for the latest and greatest gadget -- youve all fallen for it.&quot  Well, the DVD player, the VCR, the copy of Half-Life 2 youve got...  Those are all Macrovision, not apple.  YOUVE fallen for it and you didnt even know it.
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      Guest (mypalmike)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • DRM rights
      If you buy e-books, from Amazon for example, your purchases are recorded forever. And you can go back anytime, and download your purchases again. My laptop got stolen, but I got back all my e-books from Amazon. Many other e-book vendors have the same policy. So, how come music sellers dont apply this?
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      Guest (Dude)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • I like this entry.
      I think this is a good change from having everyone knock Microsoft, and youre completely right too. I cant wait to get this to my mac friends. Then again, not liking macs and iPods has put many forks in my back allready. Well, not that many compared to you now :)
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      Guest (Mr X)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • Apologies
      First, Brad, apologies from a bi-systemal, Mac prefering guy.  I love Apple and Macs, but feel really bad when others who do resort to name calling in defense of that devotion.

      Second, I truly find Microsofts DRM to be far more restrictive than Apples.  Even with the videos I have downloaded from iTMS, I can save them elsewhere (cd, dvd, another harddrive) without any circumvention of the DRM.  I think Jobs has gone to bat for the consumers.  If the RIAA and MPAA hop into bed with Gates, he wont care how much leverage they have over the consumer - it seems to be his favorite pastime to gain an advantage over those who give him money for product.

      Hopefully, civil discussion can continue and we can learn to disagree and still go out for a beer after!
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      Guest (grshaner)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • History lesson.
      Back in the early 80s, DRM was pioneered by software companies that made games for computers.  They did things like shipping floppies with known bad sectors, duplicate sectors, and such that the software could look for, preventing simple copying of the disc to an unmodified blank disc.  Later, a company called Macrovision became the leader in DRM, creating, among other things, the technology that makes copying a DVD to VHS end up virtually unviewable.  DRM is not a new phenomenon, and the entertainment industry has come to expect that new media forms will have stronger DRM than previous ones.

      You say, &quotAnd -- for everyone who shells out their hard-earned money for the latest and greatest gadget -- youve all fallen for it.&quot  Well, the DVD player, the VCR, the copy of Half-Life 2 youve got...  Those are all Macrovision, not apple.  YOUVE fallen for it and you didnt even know it.
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      Guest (mypalmike)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • DRM rights
      If you buy e-books, from Amazon for example, your purchases are recorded forever. And you can go back anytime, and download your purchases again. My laptop got stolen, but I got back all my e-books from Amazon. Many other e-book vendors have the same policy. So, how come music sellers dont apply this?
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      Guest (Dude)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
  • ignorance is not bliss, when ur an idiot
    what the?
    &quot[blah  blah blah]music youve purchased a license to use through iTunes, and your computer crashes -- you lose all of that music. [blah blah blah].&quot

    MORON.. that only applies to subscription, which Apple doesnt use, fairly allows you to own the files, therefore you can back it up, on anything  you want, for as long as you want because you own it! FairPlay doesnt restrict you from doing that.

    If my computer crashed data may be lost, well der Einstein, if my house burnt down, my furniture may be lost, but unfortunatly i dont have the option to back that up do I?

    Do your research FOOL. I dont even use itunes or have an iPod but im not as stupid as to right rubbish like this.
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    Guest (ben masters)
    01/05/2006
    Posts:1
    • attention whoa
      wow... look at me.. look at me...
      im getting hits at last...
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      Guest (kristy)
      01/05/2006
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    • try things before criticizing them..
      a journalist that doesnt use Apple since 1999...how do you know what you say? from word of mouth? cmon..
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      Guest (Hologr4m)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • attention whoa
      wow... look at me.. look at me...
      im getting hits at last...
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      Guest (kristy)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
    • try things before criticizing them..
      a journalist that doesnt use Apple since 1999...how do you know what you say? from word of mouth? cmon..
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      Guest (Hologr4m)
      01/05/2006
      Posts:1
  • Very Unbalanced and irresponsible reporting
    The fact is EVERY legal download option has some sort of DRM, and probably we will see this on all &quotHard&quot versions (CDs) within five years or so.  This seems to violate &quotFair Use,&quot but this is the market we live in. 

    I am assuming that Brad is advocating the illegal download of &quotunrestricted&quot music (which is illegal). Or the purchase of CDs and ripping (which is environmentally unfriendly).  If you are going to do any essay, you should know about counterpoints. Completely presenting only one side makes great sound bites, but discredits the intelligence of your sites visitors.
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    Guest (Chuck)
    01/05/2006
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  • R U People Nuts?
    Stick it to the fascist capitalistic pigs, power to the serfs.  Get an EXISTENCE people!
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    Guest (CryptoZ)
    01/05/2006
    Posts:1
  • Logical flaw in your argument
    You state that you disagree that Microsoft is so much worse than Apple, because non-Microsoft programmers take up the slack. But, then you state the problems of Apples position without allowing that the non-Apple programmers also take up the slack there.

    Whether you are pro- or anti-DRM should be the focus of this article. Introducing the Apple/Microsoft clash where its not native smacks of calling attention to yourself. By saying anti-DRM crowds are in bed with Apple and sleeping by its rules, but are not equally in bed with Microsoft, youre guilty of selective vision.

    In the end, Brad points out a real problem and then avoids talking about it by attaching it to a fake Apple/Microsoft division.
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    Guest (Ben Curtis)
    01/05/2006
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  • thank you
    thank you so much for worrying about me!  its so great that you care that its possible ive been bamboozled!  i should go get MS stuff because they are so upright and fair!  the most convicted tech company ever (for theft, repeatedly) is what i should use!  oh to be in the fold of bill gates whos vision included the famous  &quotthe web is a fad and MS wont be getting into it&quot! 
    just one thing you forgot, exactly what other music offering out there offers a better deal with drm?  please elaborate, youve spent so much time explaining apples short comings and how were all a bunch of morons, please guide us to the right place you who knows all and sees all.
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    Guest (cute)
    01/05/2006
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  • Apple Sux
    Everything you said and: on top of the DRM problem at apple is their totally proprietory stance on software design. Its a nightmare trying to write software for the apple platform. Ive got at least a dozen software design platforms for the PC including many under Linux and other operating systems. But what is available for the Apple? 3 that I know of and 2 cost $$$ apple is proof of that old adage. Theres one born every minute.
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    Guest (The Guy)
    01/05/2006
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    • Guest (Jim)
      01/05/2006
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    • Apple incompetents
      It is an open secret that Apple products attract the technologically ignorant. The so called &quotuser friendliness&quot is often just a cover for dumb, pre-set products. You can do more things with a PC, but you have to make an EFFORT to learn. The IQ of the masses is not up to that challenge. Take the iPod zombies: you could do the same thing with a PDA + many, many, MANY more things. Yet people prefer a dumb, monofunctional device, which only plays music.
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      Guest (Dude)
      01/05/2006
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      • Monofunctional?
        Another PC user who knows nothing about Apple. The iPod (I dont own one btw) can serve a ton of functions - it plays music, video, podcasts, and books on tape, it is a digital photography storage and viewing device, it has a calendar, clock, you can put your contacts into it, and store numerous other types of data, etc. Try actually learning about things before you write about them. You must be related to the author of this article or something.
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        Guest (JoeChip)
        01/05/2006
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      • Monofunctional?
        Another PC user who knows nothing about Apple. The iPod (I dont own one btw) can serve a ton of functions - it plays music, video, podcasts, and books on tape, it is a digital photography storage and viewing device, it has a calendar, clock, you can put your contacts into it, and store numerous other types of data, etc. Try actually learning about things before you write about them. You must be related to the author of this article or something.
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        Guest (JoeChip)
        01/05/2006
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    • Guest (Jim)
      01/05/2006
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    • Apple incompetents
      It is an open secret that Apple products attract the technologically ignorant. The so called &quotuser friendliness&quot is often just a cover for dumb, pre-set products. You can do more things with a PC, but you have to make an EFFORT to learn. The IQ of the masses is not up to that challenge. Take the iPod zombies: you could do the same thing with a PDA + many, many, MANY more things. Yet people prefer a dumb, monofunctional device, which only plays music.
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      Guest (Dude)
      01/05/2006
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  • the thing that connects all mac haters is anger
    why should you care that we like to use Macs and Mac products? they work great for me. you and other Mac haters protest too much.
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    Guest (cbg)
    01/05/2006
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  • Thanks for the update
    Maybe you can backtrack even faster if you put your shoes on the other way around.
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    Guest (Doh)
    01/05/2006
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  • Dude, burn a CD
    All you have to do is burn your music to a CD, case closed. Then if you want to use it with another player just reimport it from the CD. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! Now, real and windblows you cant burn a CD because you are renting. If you want to burn it you have to pay more.
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    Guest (raindog)
    01/05/2006
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  • About time someone said it
    About time someone said it
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    Guest (Bob)
    01/05/2006
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  • lets keep it rational...
    Youre right-on in describing some of the drawbacks of iTunes DRM, but I dont think that your explanation of why people use it (blind faith in Mr. Jobs) is accurate. The reason people use it is there are clear benefits despite the drawbacks:
    1. convenience - it just works. This factor may not be very valuable to a tech-saavy person like yourself, but is priceless for a non-techie. Cuteness is only a dessert. Functionality is the entree.
    2. reliabiltiy - the same reason most people pony up $10+ for a real DVD vs. $4 for a bootleg DVD. Yes DRM is a constraint, but there is the concurrent benefit of good quality media with little effort and risk.

    Theres my 2 cents.
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    Guest (stanley Shih)
    01/05/2006
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  • Its about time someone said it.
    Its about time someone said it. The Ipod is the epitamy of American antisocialism. Its a consumerostic, &quotLook at me. Arent I cool&quot device and that is the reason most people have them. I had one for a short while and it didnt impress me as anything special, except the price which was almost triple of other MP3 players of the same price.
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    Guest (Dr. K)
    01/05/2006
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    • Oops
      It should say &quotOther MP3 players of the same quality&quot
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      Guest (Dr. K)
      01/05/2006
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    • Right on the money
      Brad, I whole-heartedly agree with you... except for the buckeyes stuff... But yeah, why would any thinking person want to subject themselves to those kind of compromises when with a little work they could be leaps and bounds ahead with PC based stuff. 
      I personally do not have an iPod, iTunes, or anything else apple (other than quicktime).  I do however really like my Rio Karma mp3 player.  Reads double the file types of the iPod, and its not white and shiney. 
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      Guest (Matty)
      01/08/2006
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    • Oops
      It should say &quotOther MP3 players of the same quality&quot
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      Guest (Dr. K)
      01/05/2006
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    • Right on the money
      Brad, I whole-heartedly agree with you... except for the buckeyes stuff... But yeah, why would any thinking person want to subject themselves to those kind of compromises when with a little work they could be leaps and bounds ahead with PC based stuff. 
      I personally do not have an iPod, iTunes, or anything else apple (other than quicktime).  I do however really like my Rio Karma mp3 player.  Reads double the file types of the iPod, and its not white and shiney. 
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      Guest (Matty)
      01/08/2006
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  • Idiots who dont backup
    Well you must fall into the catagory of idiots who dont backup their data. Sure, if your hard drive crashes, you lose all of your purchased music, along with all of the other data that was stored on your hard drive. Let me also touch upon that many people dont keep their music on the internal drive of their machine, but on an external drive. I happen to be one of those people who also backups up his external drive ( redundancy is good ) , so that I dont really worry if my drive does crash or fail. Let me also bring up that there are many freeware programs that will read the song contents of an iPod and pull those songs off and onto your hard drive. Maybe you should actually do some research about things before posting. I understand about DRM and blah blah blah, but it seems like you really dont understand how to use an iPod or the software. Maybe stick to things you actually know about.
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    Guest (Ponder)
    01/05/2006
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    • Great post, wish you hadnt soft sold it though
      Now we get to see retarded comments from all of the drones who not only drink the kool-aid but pay premium prices to do so!  All the consumers who are so locked into the media driven, content free, hollow bling-driven pop culture society that they cant even manage to acknowledge the valid points you raise.
      FWIW - I dont care if you choose Mac or PC or *nix for your home system, just dont be an evangelist about it.  The people who think that is what your article is about should reread it, or have their manager read and explain it to them.  We are talking about tools would you cuss out someone who preferred Makita to DeWalt?
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      Guest (Aaron)
      01/05/2006
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    • Great post, wish you hadnt soft sold it though
      Now we get to see retarded comments from all of the drones who not only drink the kool-aid but pay premium prices to do so!  All the consumers who are so locked into the media driven, content free, hollow bling-driven pop culture society that they cant even manage to acknowledge the valid points you raise.
      FWIW - I dont care if you choose Mac or PC or *nix for your home system, just dont be an evangelist about it.  The people who think that is what your article is about should reread it, or have their manager read and explain it to them.  We are talking about tools would you cuss out someone who preferred Makita to DeWalt?
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      Guest (Aaron)
      01/05/2006
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  • one iTMS video on my ipod
    I have one video that I purchased from the iTMS on my iPod, the rest are &quothomemade&quot and have no DRM... I dont  see the problem. If you can download a vid from iTMS, you can hack the DRM one way or another and make DVDs or watch it some other way. I like the way iTunes helps me organize all my vids... I REALLY dont see what your gripe is...
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    Guest (jimbo)
    01/05/2006
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  • backing up files..
    btw, will you blame adobe when you lose all your photoshop files to a crash and cant get them back? didnt think so.
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    Guest (jimbo)
    01/05/2006
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    • This whole story reeks of no research
      This is type of sad journalism that is ruining mainstream media especially when it comes to technology. DO YOUR RESEARCH before stating anything as fact. you can back up your itunes music. burn them to cd. Once you rip them you will have the option to rip them with out drm! which is another one of his problems. There are plenty of places to find software to illegally crack the drm. Dont blame apple because you are too lazy even to google it. He is preaching to do something illegal... I hope everyone will boycott the magazine he works for so he will know how the artists feel when they get ridiculous contracts. Artists have to pay for their own perfomances, videos and press events. Apple suceeded with cheap pricing when there was no alternative and continue to offer content lower than retail prices including tv shows.
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      Guest (Levar J)
      01/06/2006
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    • This whole story reeks of no research
      This is type of sad journalism that is ruining mainstream media especially when it comes to technology. DO YOUR RESEARCH before stating anything as fact. you can back up your itunes music. burn them to cd. Once you rip them you will have the option to rip them with out drm! which is another one of his problems. There are plenty of places to find software to illegally crack the drm. Dont blame apple because you are too lazy even to google it. He is preaching to do something illegal... I hope everyone will boycott the magazine he works for so he will know how the artists feel when they get ridiculous contracts. Artists have to pay for their own perfomances, videos and press events. Apple suceeded with cheap pricing when there was no alternative and continue to offer content lower than retail prices including tv shows.
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      Guest (Levar J)
      01/06/2006
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  • backing up files..
    btw, will you blame adobe when you lose all your photoshop files to a crash and cant get them back? didnt think so.
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    Guest (jimbo)
    01/05/2006
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  • I quit reading when I saw
    you were an Ohio State fan.  I imagine that on Sunday when they played Notre Dame, you were probably dressed in your scarlet and grey rooting for them.  Since I am not a native to Columbus or even Ohio for that matter, it just puzzles me how the people here could even think that their lives are intertwined with that terrible university.  Double standards for their students, and their athletes is what that school is about.  So, when I see anyone in the media actually admit to being an Ohio State fan, I automatically file their pieces under BIASED pices of crap.  By the way I am writting this from my iBook G4 which just works, right out of the box with no one having to write patches, or workarounds for their stuff.  It works, it works better, and all Micro$0ft does is copy and steal ideas from others.

    God save us all from the dumbasses in the midwest.
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    Guest (Buckeyes Suck)
    01/06/2006
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  • Hu?
    Do you write this #$#@ to be provocative? You circumvent DMR on MS, dont touch iTunes/iPod because of what &quotpeople&quot say DMR is at Apple and wonder why people love the iPod because it should be horrible to use?  Its great and easy and useful without jumping through tons of hoops like you do with MS stuff.  And if you want to do more there are many programers around the world that let you do what you want. Its just with all the freedoms Apples DMR allow the consumer there is not as great a need as with MS stuff.

    Computer crashes... Hu?  Do you back up?  Reinstall DMR files on a new computer, authorize it and away you go. 

    Your to dumb to talk if your not willing to try first hand. Why are we bothering to listen to someone relying on hearsay to think. Switch back to MS and leave the rest of us to think for you.

    - M.
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    Guest (Michael B.)
    01/06/2006
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  • THE APPLE GODS SHALL SMITE YOU
    THE APPLE GODS SHALL SMITE YOU

    Apples DRM is by far the least restrictive one out there as mentioned before, lets not froget that apple overlooks the fact that users can strip the DRM off tracks by burning them to a cd.

    I want to OWN my music when I buy it apple even puts my name on the files when they are downloaded. Its like buying a cd what will the record store say to you when you loose all of your cds? I dont mind backing up either.
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    Guest (tommy)
    01/06/2006
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  • what??
    my computer recently crashed and i can still play all my itunes music...including the downloaded ones
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    Guest (bob)
    01/06/2006
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  • huh?
    I have never purchased a single piece of music for my ipod and have over 30 gb on it... whats the beef? Oh yeah, and a bunch of movies and whatnot stored as files to watch whenever and wherever I choose. DRM has NEVER once entered into my ipod experience thankyouverymuchgoodbye.
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    Guest (greg)
    01/06/2006
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    • CDs bad
      Talk about loosing data. I read a bout a man in Oregon that has over a hundred unreadable CDs because mold got to them and now they are unreadable. No medium is safe. You take your chances with any of them. Tell that editor to back-up his files. Wait he should know that by now if he is writing for a Technology magazine.
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      Guest (Brian)
      01/07/2006
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    • CDs bad
      Talk about loosing data. I read a bout a man in Oregon that has over a hundred unreadable CDs because mold got to them and now they are unreadable. No medium is safe. You take your chances with any of them. Tell that editor to back-up his files. Wait he should know that by now if he is writing for a Technology magazine.
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      Guest (Brian)
      01/07/2006
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  • iPod Irrationality
    How can someone who has never owned or even used a product be trusted to critique, explain, comment on, or review said product? Such is the case of Brad King and his commentary of the Apple iPod. If this type of review is common for your publication, then tell me, why in the world would I ever bother to read anything you publish? It contains inaccurate information, here-say, contradictions, poor (absurd) logic, and, in his words, &quot(possibly irrational) anger&quot about the iPod. And, if he is trying to endear himself to his audience (probably many that own an iPod or want to), then he has failed miserably in that area too with his put-down of iPod owners.

    You know, I dont own a scalpel and Ive never really learned how to do brain surgery but I would be willing to work on Brads. No, theres just too much to fix in there that I am sure that it is not worth my time!
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    Guest (Robert)
    01/06/2006
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  • You attack without a fact
    Whats your point?  You attack with nothing but your feelings.  Is that what you learned at Ohio State or MIT
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    Guest (simon)
    01/08/2006
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  • you
    douche bag
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