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What Should NASA Do to Secure Its Future?

To get the funding the agency desires, space advocates have some explaining to do.

Brittany Sauser 09/23/2009

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Last week the panel charged with reviewing the future of U.S. human spaceflight went before Congress to discuss its summary report (which we covered here).

The Augustine panel took quite a bit of heat from the House Committee on Science and Technology, which was dismayed that the panel had not been more specific in its recommendations. Some chair members were also disgruntled that the panel had provided alternative options to NASA's current exploration plan even though it did not find any evidence of mismanagement or technical problems.

It's clear from the panel's report that NASA needs more money if it is to send humans to other bodies in the solar system--even if the agency uses the commercial sector--and that the Obama administration has some hefty decisions to make on the future of U.S. space exploration in the coming weeks.

The Space Review's editor and publisher, Jeff Foust, has written a nice article here analyzing the one question that needs to be answered for NASA to receive its desired funding (an additional $3 billion per year): Why should the U.S. have a human spaceflight program at all?

The "real reason why we continue to do civil human spaceflight," says Foust, is "because we have for nearly 50 years, starting with that incredible surge in the 1960s when we raced the Soviet Union to the Moon and won."

Foust continues:

If we were to stop doing it, the reasoning goes, we would look weak and lose prestige, regardless of what else we decided to do in space or elsewhere instead of human spaceflight. It's not an exciting argument to starry-eyed space enthusiasts who dream of going to the Moon and beyond, but it does explain a great many things.

In addition, Foust argues that the benefits of "the frontier"--traveling into the solar system--need to be brought back to the people so that civilians understand the value of space travel.

While Foust says it may be too late in the near term for a compelling argument for human spaceflight to be made to the public so that NASA can get the $3 billion (the administration does have more pressing issues like healthcare to deal with), there is hope for the future, assuming the administration gives NASA just enough to sustain its current program.

He concludes:

If NASA's human spaceflight program is to survive, and thrive, its supporters would do well to take that message to heart: to better explain to the public, the White House, and Congress how it is aligned with national interests and provides "better value" (another phrase from [NASA deputy administrator Lori Garver's] speech [at AIAA Space 2009]). To do so may require a shift from the tired old reasons of the past to new ones that put the space agency at the heart of a new mission to open up human spaceflight to a wider range of applications and a greater degree of relevance and importance to all.

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gabrielg01

450 Comments

  • 874 Days Ago
  • 09/23/2009

Shameful priorities.

The Iraq war costs the US about $8 billion/month. The war in Afghanistan costs about $2 billion/month.

Yet we cannot give NASA a $3 billion raise per year...

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neilrieck

67 Comments

  • 873 Days Ago
  • 09/24/2009

Re: Shameful priorities.

The total cost of both conflicts (Iraq and Iran) is over one trillion dollars (more if you include secondary items like educating soldiers for ~12 years only to have that investment snuffed out with a bullet or IED). Add to this the 750 billion dollar Wall Street bailout then you will realize that a few extra billion dollar INVESTMENT in NASA (as well as our future) seems trivial by comparison.

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Mapou

357 Comments

  • 874 Days Ago
  • 09/23/2009

The Amazing Future of Space Travel

It's sad to see the space program in trouble but we should not despair because the future of space travel is not anything like most of us envision it. A huge amount of money is being spent by NASA and others on rocket technology, a truly primitive, dangerous and expensive form of transportation. I think all this money is being wasted because a time is coming soon when space travel will be safe,  inexpensive and enjoyable by everybody, not just NASA's and Russia's astronauts. And here is why.

It's all about motion. There are reasons to suppose that we are on the verge of a breakthrough in physics that will forever change our understanding of motion. Whether or not they admit it, physicists believe that two particles in relative inertial motion stay in motion for no reason at all, as if by magic. The truth is that every effect must have a cause. An analysis of the causality of motion leads to the inevitable conclusion that we are swimming in a sea of energy, an immense lattice of wall-to-wall energetic particles, to be precise.

Soon, we will figure out how to tap into the lattice for energy production and transportation. It will be an age of practically unlimited free energy and extremely fast transportation. Vehicles will have no need for wheels, will go almost anywhere and negotiate right angle turns without slowing down. Floating cities, unlimited clean energy, earth to Mars in hours, New York to Beijing in minutes. That’s the future of travel and energy production.

The Problem With Motion:
http://rebelscience.blogspot.com/2009/09/physics-problem-with-motion-part-i.html

[edit] You can downvote me all you want but that's just a form of argument ad hominem. I am right about motion.

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NelsonBridwell

9 Comments

  • 874 Days Ago
  • 09/23/2009

Space Exploration

The primary mission of NASA is and should always be Space Exploration.  To attempt to justify it in terms of technology spin-offs, weather modification, energy, education, or international relations is as unreasonable as demanding an immediate economic return for every single basic research program conducted at MIT.

The true justification is that space is our future, and NASA is continuing to take our first steps.

Many, many decades ago, back in the 70s, I recall asking an astronomer the short-sighted question of that day, "Is it relevant?"

His thoughtful reply was that perhaps an understanding of the larger universe helps us to understand whether or not we ourselves are relevant.

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macybee5

1 Comment

  • 874 Days Ago
  • 09/23/2009

NASA

I think that the long term goal of humanity is to have a human settlement on another star system in our galaxy.  To get to that goal, we need to get a human settlement on Mars and on the Moon.  To do that I think we need to build the space tug that was defined by Jerry O'Neill in his book The High Frontier.  To use the tug effectively we need a space station in low orbit that can act as a way station from the earth to the moon.  To do that, we need a launch vehicle to carry stuff from the earth to low orbit.  All this sounds pretty simple to me.  However, I feel that there is nothing simple or easy when it comes to space.

To fund these projects, we need to cut out everything NASA is doing that can be cut.  We should cut everything that is not related to getting man to a human settlement on a star.  The Hubble Space Telescope has not advanced getting man anywhere.  To me, that means the funds expended on Hubble should have been spent on a launch vehicle or getting the International Space Station configured to become a way station to the Moon and Mars.

Why hasn't the Augustine Commission followed Jerry O'Neill's program?  It seems to me that NASA has done its best to avoid doing anything O'Neill suggested.  Why?

What can we do to advance the human settlement of a close star?  What do you think Jerry O'Neill would say if he were alive?

Mr. Masse Bloomfield

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NelsonBridwell

9 Comments

  • 873 Days Ago
  • 09/24/2009

Re: NASA

O'Neil deserves much credit for waking so many of us up to our future potential in space.

The reason why his ideas were not seriously advanced is because Senator William Proxmire did his best to kill off any and all NASA colonization research as wastefull of taxpayers dollars.

In order to move successfully out into the universe, we need to understand what is out there, which is why space science (Hubble, Compton, Stardust, MER, Deep Impact, Messenger, ground based astronomy...) is so important.

What is good now is that in addition to all this basic science, NASA is also once again resuming it's development of versatile heavy lift launch capabilities for a wide range of human exploration missions beyond LEO destinations.  The excitement is beginning to build.

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cfontanez

2 Comments

  • 865 Days Ago
  • 10/02/2009

Re: NASA

I agree with your ideas, but remember that telescopes represent our eyes in space and before we try to go anywhere we first must identify (see) were we want to go.  Telescope technology should always be a part of space exploration - taking funding from the Hubble telescope its like taking the knive away from a steak dinner.

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Hamletxi

2 Comments

  • 874 Days Ago
  • 09/23/2009

Reasons for Human Space Flight

      Many people have very limited knowledge about tehnology and its developement.  Environmetalists and people of so called more "liberal" thinking arent technologists or "techno geeks."   It just isnt their interest.  But those who love tech, know how significant Nasa's technical developemets have been to every day life.  The "liberal," "media," and "poplar cultures" focus on "green" and "fuel efficiency" is where the argumentfor human space flight must be focused.
       The fuel cell and photovoltaic cell were really made workable because of space flight.  CFD(computationl fluid dynamics) Software and further understanding or aero and thermo dynamics are the major reason for effiiency gains with military and commercial avation in wing shape and jet engies, the fuel economy gains in car engines and car aerodynamics,  and greatly increased effeciency in gas turbines and generators for power generation.  CFD software, CAD software and software that measure physical stress on materials has advaned efficiency in every product category you can think of.
    Make everyone aware of the literally thousands of products, technologies and processes that are offshoots of space flight.

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JDBailey

15 Comments

  • 873 Days Ago
  • 09/24/2009

Recognize Biz<Sci

NASA and NSA (.gov/.mil/.com) need to consider that Biz-management is of questionable value and potentially disruptive to Science and Technology programs/projects.

I would like to see a future business model for NASA where Biz-management HR was placed in a programs/projects support role to programs/projects-management Scientist and Engineers that have extensive adept heuristic-work skills/history with applied science/technology experience.

I find most (not all) Biz-managers competent at policy and bean-counting organization reality of resources/funds, but totally clueless on operations actualities, HR-valuation, and practical application.

Larry the Cable Guy (XM Blue Collar Radio) moniker-phrase "Get'er Dun!" always reminds me of too many EU and US Biz-managers. They can manage a business, but C*Os to mid-level managers with Biz-BS/MS/PhD should not make science a/o technology decisions.

Biz-managers need to keep to their own chosen specialty of providing or withdrawing resources and funds on the practical Biz-theory of "can or can't afford..." and avoid science and technology (as they already do theory) application  requirements.

NASA disasters are unacceptable and indicate Biz-management systemic failure to understand applied science and technology.

Most Biz-management that attends a one or two day course on statistics will fail to comprehend they have no hope of being a statistician without years of education and experience; So, why did they pay $2.5K for a worthless course and waste of time. They could hire a statistician (scientist, mathematician, engineer...), but ....

Funnier still is when contracts/acquisition folks step far outside their skill set to critique science and technology requirements in a work-statement. %~P

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cfontanez

2 Comments

  • 865 Days Ago
  • 10/02/2009

The Future of NASA's Space Program

The answer is simple – space exploration must be among our top priorities.  Our long term existence depends on our ability to understand our home “the Universe” and the threats inherent within this complex system.  “Health Care” and the “Economy” should also be our priorities, but in essence both of these priorities do not represent an inherent risk to humanity as a whole. 

A time will come when humans will be tested to develop technology to reach and habitat other worlds.  It is not a question if it would happen, but when will it happen.  As such, the space program must continue to be properly funded so that generation after generation can continue to build on previous accomplishments and continue to provide humanity the necessary tools (technology) to evolve. 

When people include politics in this equation, they do not understand that we might be the only intelligent life form in the universe and as such we must use the only opportunity we have to expand and colonize other worlds. 

It simple - Fund NASA – let the smart people work.  Continue the work of Neil and others……..I sure will.

Carlos Fontanez

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Danny Dot

1 Comment

  • 863 Days Ago
  • 10/04/2009

Contract Fraud

I was asked to but refused to participate in a criminal conspiracty to award the huge, unjustified sole source Ares I first stage contract to ATK.  This turned ATK from a motor company to an integrated design house -- a big step in the industry.

I was fired from NASA in the spring of 2006 to keep me from becoming a whisteblower on the criminal act of awarded the work without even a bid from Aerojet. 

In the mean time, 4 key decision makers have moved from NASA to become ATK VPs.

Danny Deger

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This blog focuses on the nuts-and-bolts of space technology. We're interested in the hardware that's actually going into orbit and beyond. We write about what's involved in building, launching, and operating spacecraft, exploration vehicles, and habitats (and what it takes on the ground to support them) today.

Delta-V is written by Stephen Cass, a senior editor at TR who has covered space technology and exploration for nine years, and Brittany Sauser, a space technology reporter at TR.

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