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Cheap Drinking Water from the Ocean

Carbon nanotube-based membranes will dramatically cut the cost of desalination.

By Aditi Risbud

Monday, June 12, 2006

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A water desalination system using carbon nanotube-based membranes could significantly reduce the cost of purifying water from the ocean. The technology could potentially provide a solution to water shortages both in the United States, where populations are expected to soar in areas with few freshwater sources, and worldwide, where a lack of clean water is a major cause of disease.

A carbon-nanotube membrane (quarter shown for scale). The nanotubes are located at the center of each square. Despite their tiny size, they can filter water more efficiently than current larger membranes. (Credit: Science)

The new membranes, developed by researchers at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL), could reduce the cost of desalination by 75 percent, compared to reverse osmosis methods used today, the researchers say. The membranes, which sort molecules by size and with electrostatic forces, could also separate various gases, perhaps leading to economical ways to capture carbon dioxide emitted from power plants, to prevent it from entering the atmosphere.

The carbon nanotubes used by the researchers are sheets of carbon atoms rolled so tightly that only seven water molecules can fit across their diameter. Their small size makes them good candidates for separating molecules. And, despite their diminutive dimensions, these nanopores allow water to flow at the same rate as pores considerably larger, reducing the amount of pressure needed to force water through, and potentially saving energy and costs compared to reverse osmosis using conventional membranes.

Indeed, the LLNL team measures water flow rates up to 10,000 times faster than would be predicted by classical equations, which suggest that flow rates through a pore will slow to a crawl as the diameter drops. "It's something that is quite counter-intuitive," says LLNL chemical engineer Jason Holt, whose findings appeared in the 19 May issue of Science. "As you shrink the pore size, there is a huge enhancement in flow rate."

The surprising results might be due to the smooth interior of the nanotubes, or to physics at this small scale -- more research is needed to understand the mechanisms involved. "In some physical systems the underlying assumptions are not valid at these smaller length scales," says Rod Ruoff, a physical chemist and professor of mechanical engineering at Northwestern University (who was not involved with the work).

To make the membranes, the researchers started with a silicon wafer about the size of a quarter, coated with a metal nanoparticle catalyst for growing carbon nanotubes. Holt says the small particles allow the nanotubes to grow "like blades of grass -- vertically aligned and closely packed." Once grown, the gaps between the nanotubes are filled with a ceramic material, silicon nitride, which provides stability and helps the membrane adhere to the underlying silicon wafer. The field of nanotubes functions as an array of pores, allowing water and certain gases through, while keeping larger molecules and clusters of molecules at bay.

Comments

  • Dialysis & Desalination
    Google the terms "carbon nanotube membrane dialysis". Many hits. Good info. Desalination and dialysis have much in common. Cheap water and improved health. Cheers.
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Colin)
    06/12/2006
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    • LLNL
      How does one collaborate with LLNL the new "carbon nantube membrane dialysis" is the discovery we've been waiting for and could immediately drop into our systems.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Debra)
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
      • LLNL
        Maybe call them on the phone?
        Rate this comment: 12345
        Guest (qzilla)
        06/13/2006
        Posts:1
      • LLNL
        Try the contacts here:
        http://www.llnl.gov/pao/contact/

        Including perhaps:
        Ann Willoughby, Manager, Community &
        External Relations
        willoughby1@llnl.gov
        (925) 423-4234

        Gov't labs allow for a cooperative R&D agreement that is quite useful for efforts such as yours. Good Luck!
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        Guest (Dave)
        06/16/2006
        Posts:1
      • Re: LLNL
        It looks a suprising news for human future.
        I am very exciting to hear further development.

        Ben
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        suhben
        10/14/2008
        Posts:1
  • Electrostatic Cooling
    Because the nanotube membrane would
    be a conductor of electricity, an
    experiment to utilize the membrane
    as an array of high voltage electrodes in electrostatic cooling of a metal plate across
    which wind is blowing
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Austin B. Carter, Jr.)
    06/12/2006
    Posts:1
  • Gas and particle filtration
    As important as cheap desalination is in a world with dwindling potable water supplies, I'm more excited at the prospect of cheap and efficient gas and partical filtration.  Might this technology make coal-fired power generators enviromentally sound?
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    Guest (Mark)
    06/13/2006
    Posts:1
    • RE: Gas and particle filtration
      Just because you are able to trap the gasses escaping from a coal fired plant doesn’t mean you can dispose of them cheaply. CO2 gas still has to be put somewhere, currently we just put it back in the ground but this is just a stop gap measure and it is far from a permanent solution.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Justin)
      06/13/2006
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      • [no subject]
        How is putting it back in the ground a stop-gap solution? Nearly all the co2 in the world is in the ground, except for that which we've dug up and burned
        Rate this comment: 12345
        Guest (Umm)
        06/13/2006
        Posts:1
        • [no subject]
          It's very hard to guarnatee that CO2 pumped into the ground will not leak, and thus places in which this is done much be closely monitored. We don't quite yet have the technology to safely replace CO2 in the ground "for sure".
          Rate this comment: 12345
          Guest (Peter)
          06/13/2006
          Posts:1
      • co2
        Nobel laureate George Olah has a whole book about what could be done with exess co2 -- turn it into methanol.
        Rate this comment: 12345
        Guest (wstephens)
        06/14/2006
        Posts:1
        • Guest (Floyd)
          06/14/2006
          Posts:1
          • Burn it?
            Seems that the methane would be useful as fuel source -- NG -- and thus reduce burning of coal. Not 'great', per se, but reducing burning of even worse GHG pollutant.
            Rate this comment: 12345
            Guest (ABS)
            06/16/2006
            Posts:1
          • Methane
            Dude,
            Methane is NATURAL GAS
            (OK Methane is the major component of natural gas)
            Anyhow send the methane to the nearest natural pipeline or load.
            Rate this comment: 12345
            Guest (Jordan Smith)
            06/17/2006
            Posts:1
            • CO2<->Methane
              You guys do realize... that you have to put at minimum the amount of energy into the CO2->Methane process as you would get from burning the Methane...
              It's a non-solution.
              Rate this comment: 12345
              Guest (Will)
              06/18/2006
              Posts:1
              • Re: CO2<->Methane
                It is only a non solution because of the cost of energy. If an energy efficient means of converting energy, carbon dioxide, and water into methane gas is found then you can store energy for later use. Instead of taking it from underground and putting more carbon dioxide into the environment.
                Rate this comment: 12345

                shomas
                08/17/2006
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          • Methane from C02
            explain how this is possible
            Rate this comment: 12345
            Guest (Rob)
            07/25/2006
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    • Gas and particle filtration
      why on earth would anyone continue to use carbon based fuels if this technology can produce cleaner burning fuels such as hydrogen for much less?
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Steve)
      07/28/2006
      Posts:1
  • Why doesn't the filtered salt plug the holes?
    It would have been good if the article would have explained where the filtered substance goes.  Is the filter quickly ruined by the salts, or can it be easily cleaned?
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Vick)
    06/13/2006
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    • reject
      They continue down the stream into the reject flow.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (water)
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
    • Scale
      At this scale, it would be a case of the salt ions simply bouncing off the "membrane" and staying in solution on the one side.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Bruce)
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
    • think differently
      This isn't a filter at the bottom of a cone, it would be lining a tube-like structure with salinated water running through it, like a common garden seep hose.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Kered)
      06/16/2006
      Posts:1
  • Cheap Water Solution
    Can an array of these be fitted to larger pipes and then lowered into the depths of the ocean as to allow the physical forces of water pressure separate the desalinated water from the surrounding water, then through the same pressures drive the cleaned water to the surface where it can be capruted and stored? Sort of like a passive separation process since salt water and distilled water will have differing densities.
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Mike)
    06/13/2006
    Posts:1
    • [no subject]
      if so, just put a turbine on it for your source of free perpetual energy
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
    • [no subject]
      As the "distilled" water passes though the salt water towards the surface it will mix with the salt water and become salinized.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Mike Bibby)
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
    • Or not..
      Wouldn't work like that, osmotic pressure would pull the water back through the filter.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Dookie)
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
      • Osmotic Pressure
        http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/kinetic/diffus.html#c4

        I'm not an engineer per se, so your response has me stumped a little. If the Salt water is more dense, and the nano filter in place prevents salt from getting in, then the pure water - being less dense would simply fill up the tube - correct? Or is it just the opposite, where the pure water is smaller than the nano filter, and bleed back into the salt water if there is insufficient pressure to keep it moving in the right direction. If the latter - then a pump would be required to keep pure water flowing into the tube to be captured.
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        Guest (Mike)
        06/14/2006
        Posts:1
        • [no subject]
          The higher concentration of salt in the ocean would exert a pull on the fresh water.  If you were to put a long pipe down into the ocean with one of these membranes over the ende, the freshwater column inside the pipe would not reach the surface--a pump would be necessary to pull it up to the surface.
          Rate this comment: 12345
          Guest
          06/18/2006
          Posts:1
          • [no subject]
            See this:
            http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/osmosis.htm
            Rate this comment: 12345
            Guest
            06/19/2006
            Posts:1
  • Pollution
    What About stop polluating ?
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Guillaume)
    06/13/2006
    Posts:1
    • Brine Pollution
      What nobody ever figures out here is: What are you going to do with the brine?  Sea water is 3% salt.  Suppose we can concentrate that to 30% -- if you dump that in the ocean, you'll kill everything around.  You'll need a huge area of land to create "salt flats" where the water can evaporate without harm.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Nobody)
      06/13/2006
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      • [no subject]
        you can combine the desalinization plant with a waste water processing plant and then combine the brine with treated sewage. This treated sewage is already being poured back into the ocean
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        Guest
        06/13/2006
        Posts:1
      • re: Brine pollution
        All you are doing is removing a little pure water from the salty ocean. When you use the water, it returns to the ocean eventually, rediluting the infinitesimally saltier ocean.
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        Guest (Gary Walker)
        06/13/2006
        Posts:1
      • Brine Pollution?
        How much water is going to be sucked out of the ocean to get 30% concentration - more importantly - where the heck will you store the clean water? Even pumping it underground, there would be enough ocean left to dilute the salt content. Back in the ice ages - when we had a lot of fresh water stored in the icepack the oceans were still capable of handling the load.
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        Guest (Mike)
        06/14/2006
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  • "It's something that is quite counter-intuitive,"
    I would imagine that capillary action allows the rigid nanotubes to pass the water more fluidly whereas traditional membranes require some pressure to coax the molecule through.
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    Guest (Joel)
    06/13/2006
    Posts:1
    • [no subject]
      I was thinking it might be due to water tension on a small scale.  Possibly at this scale the molecules cannot align inside the tubes so they actually flow more freely and individually.

      Of course.. I haven't taken any physics related courses in over a decade so I'm not going to pretend I actually know anything.  :)  Your theory sounds reasonable as well.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Scott)
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
    • Cheap Water
      I want to meet the people that innovated this new nano technology!
      832-233-9122
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Debra)
      08/04/2006
      Posts:1
  • Gasses
    If it can trap green houses gasses too, I'd love to have underwear made of this material so I can fart all day and not bother my coworkers.
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Scott)
    06/13/2006
    Posts:1
    • never enough...
      why wait for his to coem to market, you can already buy charcoal-impregnated underwear that absorbs noxious fumes from down under (and were not talking australia!)
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (flatulatronics)
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
    • Gasses
      As one of his coworkers, I would like him to have this "special" underwear too!
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Randy)
      06/13/2006
      Posts:1
    • nanoscale devices...
      I'm just waiting for someone to come up with a nano-scale device to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen... :)
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Rune)
      06/14/2006
      Posts:1
    • Greater good
      At last a way to stop him from blasting holes in the ionisphere
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (George)
      06/19/2006
      Posts:1
  • Oxygen enrichment for diesel engines
    If filters this fine could be used to  reduce the percentage of nitrogen drawn into a diesel engine then it would reduce emissions of oxides of nitrogen, reduce smoke and/or increase power output.
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Graham)
    06/13/2006
    Posts:1
  • Nano-pollution?
    I know a number of nano particles can cause serious health problems (respiration and gas exchange) if ingested.  What sort of guarantees are there that we wouldn't be ingesting huge quantities of the nanotubes?
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Ben)
    06/14/2006
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    • No, no pollution
      The article says that the nanotubes are first grown, then embedded in  silicon nitride. As a result, it is very unlikely that there will be a significant number floating in the resulting water.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Geek Prophet)
      06/14/2006
      Posts:1
    • Nano brain
      Ben, how much money do you get from companies dealing with water selling? hope you will never be thirsty in life.  or go get nanotubes.  and if you happen to eat them, well... s*it them out!
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (max)
      06/16/2006
      Posts:1
    • nanotoxin
      Tell your children not to eat the membranes!  (Or to pulverize them and snort them)
      As for you, I have no hope. Here is a MAJOR LIFE LESSON: There are no guarantees.
      You are correct as far as the nanotube toxicity.  Recycling must be mandatory.  
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (jordan Smith)
      06/17/2006
      Posts:1
  • nanotubes in water
    An important consideration, Ben. Bound nanotubes are most likely not a health risk, but its important to consider the specific water conditions and how they might change that could result in the release nanotubes.
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    Guest (Jo Anne)
    06/14/2006
    Posts:1
  • Nanotubes
    Yeah so what if you ingested a couple of microscopic nanaotubes. It sure beats drinking coleric water.
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Marco)
    06/14/2006
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    • nano polution
      Well nano particals can be dangerious. Bucky balls they have just found out, if allowed to mingle with DNA. The DNA has a higher attraction to the bucky balls and some of the chemical chains are replaced, causing mutation and whatnot. Much like the body liking carbon dyoxide more than oxygen.
      Rate this comment: 12345
      Guest (Jess)
      06/16/2006
      Posts:1
  • nanotubes
    Can these wonderous things seperate H2O into O and H2?...if so we can have cars that really run on water...screw the oil companies...
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    Guest (bob gordon)
    06/16/2006
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    • HHO
      I saw a video showing how HHO can be used to heat and cut metals. It also showed that a 100mi drive used only a few ounces of water.

      http://hytechapps.com/aquygen
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      Guest (.)
      06/29/2006
      Posts:1
  • Mineral extraction with pure water as by-product
    Is the route to viability the ability to extract valuable elements (gold, uranium,...) with potable water 'merely' a by-product?
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Geoerg)
    06/16/2006
    Posts:1
  • Deep sea divers
    If H2O can be split, breathe the oxygen, burn the hydrogen for propulsion and, oh yes, wear the underwear.
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (George)
    06/19/2006
    Posts:1
  • High altitude balloons
    Breathe the concentrated oxygen,use the hydrogen to increase lift and, oh yes, being this close to the ionisphere, please wear your underwear
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (George)
    06/19/2006
    Posts:1
  • mountain climbers
    Breathe concentrated oxygen,expel the nitrogen. If using H2O use hydrogen to reduce your weight and,please wear your  nano-underwear.
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    Guest (George)
    06/19/2006
    Posts:1
  • Range of uses for this technology
    The core message of this article is that they have developed the first step in a filtration technology that can separate materials at a molecular level.  Therefore you could use it with the right equipment infrstructure built around it for almost anything.
    Vehicle fuel systems
    Medical (such as dialysis and antisepsis)
    Water cleaning
    Waste processing

    Water salt is not the only thing you can take out of seawater.  What about the millions of tonnes of precious metals in solution? Run a large enough operation to filter millions of gallons of seawater with filters designed to catch larger molecules such as gold, and other metals and your system would pay for itself... probably not for a few thousand years but you would have a lot of gold etc.  Of course keepin the fauna and flora out of your intake pipes could be a problem.
    Rate this comment: 12345
    Guest (Paul )
    07/14/2006
    Posts:1
    • Re: Range of uses for this technology
      EXACTLY!  A filter is only as good as the pre-filters in-line before it.

      Filtering RO water is fine and goes pretty fast but try and filter sludge, not so quick.  I would guess several pre-filtration steps would be required to used this nanotube filter regardless of how the flow is applied to it.
      Rate this comment: 12345

      Sponge
      08/22/2006
      Posts:6
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  • nanotubes
    Has the development of the nanotubes progresses to a stage where commercil production can be realised in the near future.What pressure is required for water to pass through tubes.Thank you
    Rate this comment: 12345

    neilc
    11/05/2007
    Posts:1
    • Re: nanotubes
      Folks;

      Where and how can I buy these nanotubes?
      How much does it cost each?
      Rate this comment: 12345

      Yemm.Mulder
      01/12/2008
      Posts:1

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