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Heating Plug-in Hybrids

Heating and air-conditioning systems that use thermoelectrics could make plug-in hybrids more practical.

By Kevin Bullis

Monday, April 14, 2008

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The potential of plug-in hybrids and electric vehicles to curb petroleum use has grabbed a lot of attention lately. But there is still a big obstacle to clear before such cars can become the dominant vehicles on the road: automakers will need to find an efficient way to supply them with heat and air conditioning. That's because conventional heating and cooling systems either don't work or are inefficient in such vehicles, significantly lowering their range in hot and cold weather.

Credit: Dani Simmonds

One of the leading candidates for an alternative system is based on thermoelectrics, semiconductor devices that can provide either heat or cooling, depending on the direction the electric current is flowing. Major automakers, such as GM and Ford, are now developing systems based on existing thermoelectric semiconductors, and experimental materials that use nanotechnology promise to make such systems even more appealing.

The first plug-in hybrids--cars that can be recharged by plugging them into an electrical socket, but have small gasoline engines to extend their range--will make use of electric heaters. When they start appearing from major automakers near the end of 2010, they'll cost thousands more than conventional cars, so automakers are looking for ways to make them less expensive to broaden their appeal. One way to do so is to find more-efficient systems of heating and cooling, which make it possible to use smaller, less expensive batteries. As a result, thermoelectric systems could start appearing in cars in 2012.

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The heating systems in today's cars rely on the fact that internal combustion engines are terribly inefficient--about two-thirds of the energy gained from burning gasoline does nothing to propel the car. But this inefficiency does generate massive amounts of heat. Some of that heat is used to warm passengers. Plug-in hybrids, which run mostly or entirely on electricity for local driving, don't generate such quantities of waste heat. So, heat has to be generated using power from the battery, draining thousands of watts that could otherwise have been used to propel the vehicles. While plug-in hybrids consume dramatically less gas thanconventional cars in mild weather, in cold weather the benefit will be much less, according to Clay Maranville, a senior researcher at Ford Motor Company.

A similar problem holds true with air conditioning--the electric range of plug-in hybrids will drop in hot weather, either because the gasoline engine needs to kick in to spin a conventional compressor, or because an electric compressor will drain the battery.

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  • the problem isn't that bad
    The 2002 Toyota RAV4-EV (a battery electric vehicle) has electric heat pump heating and cooling.  The effect on range is not severe.  This suggests to me that the problem statement for this article may be overblown.  It helps to remember that practical production battery electric vehicles are demonstrated commercial technology.  Improvements are always welcome, but there is no reason to think they are required.
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    killian
    04/12/2008
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    • Re: the problem isn't that bad
      The problem isn't whether a few people will want to buy plug-ins and EVs but whether just about everyone will. That's a high bar to set, and it will require cars that don't inconvenience people, that perform as advertised, and that don't cost much more than the alternatives. The electricity needed to run a heater and air conditioner is significant. If it's reduced, such vehicles will perform better and cost less and more people will buy them.
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      Kevin Bullis
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      • Re: the problem isn't that bad
        Of course I'm all for better technology, such as improved heating efficiency.  I was simply pointing out that existing technology works quite well.  There seems to be a myth that EV technology is not ready for prime time.  Please remember that every EV produced as part of California's ZEV program before 2003 was snapped up.  Leases were low not because there was no demand, but because there was no supply.  I personally sat on a GM waiting lists for 18 months before being told that I wouldn't get a car.  Automakers only wanted to make enough vehicles to meet the ZEV credit requirements.  Automakers then spun the low production into the vehicles being expensive (of course if you only produce 1500, each one is more expensive than if you produce 15,000).  Leasing only in California (and in some cases one or two other states) was also an issue.  The automakers put about every barrier possible to success, and still every vehicle produced was snapped up, and people protested when the automakers took their vehicles away and crushed them when the lease was up (lease renewal was not an option in most cases).

        One reason that automakers aren't enthusiastic about EVs is that they are too reliable.  Think about the things that require maintenance in our gasoline vehicle.  Now think about a car without an engine (including spark plugs, radiators, fluids, oil, oil filters, air filters, generators), with a transmission (electric motors have fairly flat torque curves), exhaust system (catalytic converter and muffler).  About the only maintenance on EVs are tires and wiper fluid (brake pads someday, but regen lightens the load there).

        The economics of EVs is such that the total lifetime cost of ownership is lower, but the up-front cost is higher.  Volume production (the "learning curve") would of course help, but so would business models that turn the battery pack cost from up-front to monthly, since that would result in lower monthly payments than a gasoline car.  I can provide the calcs if you like.
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        killian
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        • Re: the problem isn't that bad
          Yes, please do the numbers.

          But, remember that the battery doesn't last forever so you need to amortize its replacement cost over its expected life.
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          JRT
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          • Re: the problem isn't that bad
            Nothing lasts forever, but some battery technologies will last longer than the vehicle, creating a whole new issue: whether one could move batteries from an old vehicle to a new one without scrapping it.

            Other battery technologies might wear out before the vehicle does.

            My family is driving a 2002 Toyota RAV4-EV. It has 100 miles of range. So far we have 91,000 miles on the odometer and the battery pack is performing the same as it did in 2002. There is also a 100,000-mile club for RAV4-EVs. The most recent member wrote, "I drove 130 miles on a single charge today in my RAV4, and pulled into the driveway with 100,014 miles on the odometer."

            There are tricks that definitely extend battery lifetime significantly, depending upon the chemistry. One hopes that automakers offer options to make those tricks easy. For example, several battery chemistries benefit from charging to 90% instead of 100%, so add a switch to stop charging at 90%, and use that most of the time, and only go to 100% when you need that much range.
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            killian
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  • reduce the need for heat and A/C
    The space shuttle can lend some of its technology here.  A Ceramic Paint Additive can make any paint insulate and has been around for years.  By reducing the heat gain or lost of an automobile cabin will reduce heating/cooling requirements and reduce the noise too.  Why can't the U.S. government stimulate the renewable energy market? One benefit is that it would create U.S. jobs and put Americans to work.  Another benefit is it will not make our food cost sky rocket.  We have enough government owned land in the southwest to generate excess electricity from solar and it uses the desert not farmable land.

    People that scuff at solar power make no sense since our power consumptions are greatest during the day solar power is ideal.  But what about geothermal, wind, and tidal energies opposition like Mr. Kennedy at Martha’s Vineyard is completely foolish, wind mills at five miles out to sea are not an eye sore, far from it, it is environmentally responsible clean renewable and a step in the right direction.  Renewable energy is our only long term solution, if we want to leave the world a better place for our children.  
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    pbandjb
    04/13/2008
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    • Re: reduce the need for heat and A/C
      "since our power consumptions are greatest during the day solar power is ideal"

      Unfortunately, this is not exactly true.  Yes, solar can handle the daytime demand peak (12:00 to 16:00).  But, there is a second peak that occurs at +/- 21:00 standard time (when the sun isn't shining).  Depending on the season, this might be just a small shoulder in the power demand curve for the day, or it might be the peak use for the day.  A more minor issue is that electric demand tends to increase faster than sunshine in the morning.  This affects mostly non-tracking systems (i.e. most systems).

      Why is this a problem?  Simple, until there is a good way to store solar power, it limits the ability to replace fuel burning power plants with solar power.  It doesn't matter if solar is cost competitive if you can't replace a fuel burning power plant -- you have to have both because you need to supply the evening peak/shoulder, and the small bump in the morning.

      See:

      http://www.caiso.com/outlook/outlook.html

      for the current demand curve for (part of?) California.
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      JRT
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  • Why the fuss?
    Could be that rather ordinary, OLD technologies will rescue the plug-in hybrid. Such as a propane heater for cold days and propane refrigeration for hot ones.
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    lkrndu
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    • Re: Why the fuss?
      Adding complexity in the form of yet another type of fuel is not going to make plug-ins and EVs more attractive to consumers.
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      Kevin Bullis
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    • Re: Why the fuss?
        I am going to have to agree with this fellow. Heating and air conditioning are the main obstacle to electric cars (besides the obvious electrical storage problem) becoming main stream.
        A fuel based system to cool or heat the car quickly, and keep people comfortable is a reasonable solution.
        There is no reason this fuel could not be ethanol, it does not have to be petroleum based. These are also systems that are not going to be used all the time. But it gets REAL hot and REAL cold in some places.
        It could be an option for people who live in temperate climates. People could also get just heat or just cooling due to where they live.
        As for adding complexity, even with a backup gas engine and a system for heating and cooling, the car would still be simpler than what we have and use a lot less energy.
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      DennisBuller
      04/15/2008
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  • thermodynamics
    This article should have been assigned to someone who understands thermodynamics.
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    walt
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  • What about Residential
    Do these thermo-whatcha-ma-callits have residential applications too? Spot heating and cooling is a need in most homes, and the roofs can be fittect with solar cells to make it a zero cost (almost) item.
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    mkogrady
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  • Old Fashioned - but works
    Remember to good old days when you used to reach down near the gas peddle, open a vent and then crack the wing vent or window to setup complete ventalation? Have the Automakers put them back!

    It's cheaper than engineering a half-@$$ed solution.
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    mkogrady
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  • TEC  systems
    It's about time someone looked at thermoelectric coolers for heating and cooling chores.  They've been using these things for years for crucial cooling on sensitive items, like laser diodes.  Very efficient, very simple, very light.  No more freon, compressor pumps, coolant leaks in all those tubes,  heater cores going bad, etc.  The reduced weight alone will increase overall vehicle efficiency from losing all of those components.
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    lasertekk
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  • Hybrid system - burn fuel for heat
    Ya' know, if fuel cells ("batteries" that fairly efficiently consume fuel to generate electricity) ever come to fruition, they'll have some waste heat available for space heating.

    For the battery scenario, OK, use electricity for locomotion.
    But, for space heating the interior, wouldn't it be a lot simpler and efficient to burn fuel for heat, rather than squandering precious "juice" range on resistance heating?

    A small fuel tank, used only in the winter, for the "furnace"?
    A small "propane" tank and a catalytic heater?

    Toss in some effective super-insulation along with a remote pre-start warm up.

    Call it "Hybrid" and people will love it!
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    nekote
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  • TEC
    The efficiency of thermoelectric coolers is a joke. We are talking about some between 5% and 8% efficiency. For heating there efficiency is a little better but still not as good as a vapor compression heat pump. I am interested to see how they plan to defrost the windshield when it is -20 outside without heating the cabin.

    you can see this for yourself
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling
    I would also recomend reading about the carnot cycle too
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle
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    zig158
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    • Re: TEC
      Two things make thermoelectrics attractive for cooling, according to researchers at GM, Ford, and DOE: 1) They're cheaper and more efficient than air conditioners that use the new refrigerants being mandated in Europe, which U.S. automakers will end up using. 2) They allow for a different kind of cooling system that wastes less energy cooling off the back of seats and the ceiling, focusing on the cooling on the passengers. Such focused cooling isn't practical with conventional ductwork.
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      Kevin Bullis
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    • Re: TEC
      The RAV4-EV has a heated windshield button that defrosts the windshield in a few seconds without heating the cabin.  It draws 2A, but only for a short time.
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      killian
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  • Heating/Cooling
    Part of the problem could be solved by having your car, when it's plugged in and recharging at work or at home, ALSO connected to the internet...so that, if you're planning on leaving in 5 minutes, you can pre-heat or pre-cool your car using the grid, then your batteries would only be required to maintain the climate.
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    ljp416jmp
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  • Air Contitioning?
    Living in the Sun Belt (Dallas) gives me pause on any vehicle that doesn't have an *excellent* passenger environmental cooling system. When it's 105(F) outside and 90% humidity, cooling's not a comfort issue, it becomes one of survival. Plug-in hybrids will have to address this before I'll even look at one.

    On a related note, efficient cooling of residences has long been a dream in the overheated south. Any chance advances in vehicle cooling could cross over into that area? Solar A/C anyone?
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    dnwdfw
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    • Re: Air Contitioning?
      I think this is what you want:
      http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy07osti/40986.pdf
      The rest of this comment is an excerpt:

          [T]he United States uses 7 billion gallons of fuel per year for light-duty vehicle A/C, which is equivalent to 5.5% of the total national light-duty vehicle fuel use. It takes 9.5% of the imported crude oil to produce this much gasoline….

          A combination of these technologies reduced breath air temperature by 12°C (22°F), seat temperatures by 11°C (20°F), windshield temperature by 20.4°C (37°F), and the instrument panel surface temperature by 16.8°C (30°F).

          … results show that the A/C load can be reduced by over 30%. Vehicle simulations show that the 30% reduction in thermal load results in a 26% reduction in fuel used for A/C.
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      killian
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