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Wednesday, October 17, 2007

Fixing the Power Grid

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By Peter Fairley

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Richard Baxter, author of Energy Storage: A Nontechnical Guide and chair of a conference held last week in New York City on investing in storage, says that AEP's new projects are a "good litmus test" for the industry. "Storage technologies are emerging as a viable, commercial-level product," Baxter says.

The emergence of a grid storage market is drawing in new battery developers. These include Firefly Energy of Peoria, IL, which is using high-surface-area nanostructured electrodes to revive lead-acid technology, and lithium battery developer Altair Nanotechnologies, based in Reno, NV. In June, multinational utility AES agreed to buy an unspecified number of Altair's batteries; CEO Alan Gotcher says that Altair will deliver a one-megawatt, 15-minute prototype by the end of this year.

AEP, meanwhile, is exploring a potentially more transformative role for storage: turning the ever-shifting power output of renewable resources such as wind and solar power into steady, dependable energy. The company plans to connect its third two-megawatt battery system to a group of wind turbines at an as-yet undetermined site. Nourai says that the goal is to learn whether batteries can smooth out short-term fluctuations in power flow from the turbines. If they can, utilities should be able to absorb larger levels of wind power on their grids.

But Nourai says that AEP also wants to determine whether storing wind energy can boost its value. There are at least two ways that this could happen. Wind energy produced at night could be stored for delivery during peak hours of the day, when the price of electricity spikes. And if the power delivered by wind farms were more predictable, it would be more profitable. When an independent generator such as a wind-farm operator sells to power distributors, it must promise to deliver a certain amount of power at a certain hour. While the details vary greatly in different regional and national power markets, wind-farm operators can be penalized if they fail to meet their commitments because the wind didn't blow as hard as expected. Systems that store a fraction of a wind farm's output when the wind is blowing can eliminate most of this risk.

Nourai notes that Japanese utilities are already installing energy-storage technologies to make wind power more reliable and profitable, thanks to government incentives that cover one-third of the cost of the storage system, and to the wider spread between Japan's day and night electricity prices. Nourai believes that NGK, which can currently produce 90 megawatts' worth of sodium-sulfur battery systems per year, is considering constructing a second factory to meet the resulting demand. Meanwhile, a study completed this year by Sustainable Energy Ireland, Ireland's energy-policy agency, concluded that time-shifting storage projects might already be profitable in Europe.

However, an expert panel assembled by the Electric Power Research Institute last year judged that storage costs needed to drop below $150 per kilowatt-hour to make such time shifting economically attractive in the United States; a report issued by the institute this spring estimates that systems employing NGK's sodium-sulfur batteries cost $300 to $500 per kilowatt-hour. That cost differential has fueled recent interest in solar-thermal-power plants that capture renewable energy in the form of heat, which is easier to store than electricity. (See "Storing Solar Power Efficiently.")

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  • Sodium Sulfur - 572 - 662°F operating temp
    nekote on 10/17/2007 at 8:52 AM
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    It would be nice to mention the operating temperature of Sodium-Sulfur batteries of 572-662°F (300-350°C).  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-sulfur_battery)

    Sodium - a pretty tough element to deal with - corrosive, explosive with water, ...

    Probably needs fairly extensive / extreme safety / environmental / fire precautions.
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    • Re: Sodium Sulfur - 572 - 662°F operating temp
      lowilliams on 10/17/2007 at 2:43 PM
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      My opinion is: "sodium Sulphur batteries are disasters waiting to happen"  As you pointed out hot sodium will explode if it contacts water. It will burn in air to form sodium oxide what reacts with water to form a very strong base, Lye, that can destroy most living system by simple disolution. Hot sulphur will burn to sulphur dioxide, a very corrosive and toxic gas. These batteries disserve a vigorous NIMBY protest.  
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      • Re: Sodium Sulfur - 572 - 662°F operating temp
        asdar on 10/17/2007 at 2:58 PM
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        I think you're both overeacting about this.

        It's been tested, safety technologies have been put in place, and even in a catastrophic accident the public isn't put at risk.

        The temperature isn't so high that it's not easily contained by common materials.

        I think we need a storage system, like this, to turn the corner on grid tied home based alternative sources of energy.
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        • Re: Sodium Sulfur - 572 - 662°F operating temp
          urian1975 on 10/17/2007 at 9:10 PM
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          you are definitely overeacting....we power cities with nuclear power and your worried about some batteries exploding?! second of all it's as if the sodium is dry packed in a casing. it is actually submerged in a lubricant that would prevent exposure to the elements and then encased in a non corroding material..
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      • Re: Sodium Sulfur - 572 - 662°F operating temp
        kittensteak on 10/18/2007 at 12:25 AM
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        This sounds like a good idea if the only other option is nuclear. I'd rather be a couple blocks away from this if it explodes than within a couple hundred km of an exploding nuclear reactor.
        Do you have any idea what the safety record of these units are?
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        • Re: Sodium Sulfur - 572 - 662°F operating temp
          dan_greenberg@esource.com on 10/22/2007 at 1:01 PM
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          I don't have data on their safety record, but I do know that there are at least several hundred MW of NaS batteries operating in Japan, and have been for many years.
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          • Re: Sodium Sulfur - 572 - 662°F operating temp
            bradwell on 10/29/2007 at 9:06 AM
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            I've researched these batteries heavily over the past two years, and they have an exemplary record. They did have some safety issues early on, but they've since made engineering improvements, and they've been proven to be extremely safe. 

            The batteries have been thrown into fires and cars crashed into them, and they don't explode or anything (try doing that with a conventional battery!).  Like all batteries, they have the potential to release their energy (even the lithium in Li-ion batteries is comparatively reactive with water and oxygen), but overall, they've demonstrated 15 years of reliable performance in Japan with dozens of MW scale units.  I think we'll be seeing many more of these units in the US.
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  • Expanding DoE Research for Storage Technologies
    appratt on 10/17/2007 at 1:40 PM
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    In a markup session yesterday the House Science and Technology committee passed two bills focused expanding research on energy storage technologies.
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  • BioCarbon Fuel Cells..........
    DJTal on 10/18/2007 at 8:19 AM
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    Biofuel can be stored in massive ammounts in the form of refills for biocabon fuel cells . The power can be turned up when needed .
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    • Re: BioCarbon Fuel Cells..........
      Siphon on 10/18/2007 at 8:35 AM
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      Bio-energy is an excellent form of seasonal storage. And to assist in extreme climatic events.

      With solar thermal dealing with most of the hourly/daily storage, to prevent using too much biomass (fuel vs food/other uses dilemma solved).

      PV for peaking needs, and maybe some wind for winter loads if necessary. Some geothermal, small hydro, a little of this and a little of that.

      Using renewable electricity for plug-ins is very efficient and causes very little pollution. And allows maybe some V2G to smooth things out even more.

      With an aggressive energy efficiency program, demand can be almost stabilized.

      What's missing in this article, is an expansion of the grid itself. In particular, a smart grid upgrade + a  high capacity nationwide HVDC grid. With total infrastructure costs much less than 10% of what Iraq has cost already, what are we waiting for?!
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      • There are lots of ways........
        DJTal on 10/18/2007 at 1:39 PM
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        There are tons of ways to store electrical energy and release it rapidly into the system . See info about super capacitors , flywheels , twiddlesticks and flamjumphers etc. Who knows what the best way of doing it is ? ( retorical question ) .
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  • Other options
    Siphon on 10/18/2007 at 8:20 AM
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    There are various other options for larger scale battery energy storage. Such as flow batteries; some of the most cost-effective systems are already around $150 per kWh(e).

    Those also last longer because of lower operating temps and more stable chemistries. The only thing that has to be replaced every 5-10 years or so are the pumps. The electrolyte lasts a long time, and when it gets spoiled it can be mostly recycled.

    Unfortunately these flow batteries currently use large amounts of rare elements, which impedes scalability. We need inexpensive designs that use common materials, but are still very efficient, durable and effective. Otherwise these things are restricted to niche markets.

    There are other options as well, but my biggest bet is still on solar thermal with thermal storage, also mentioned in this article. Ausra is commercializing their underground thermal storage system which can be scaled rapidly and projected cost is about $3 per kWh(th) which is around $10 per kWh(e).

    That's 15x cheaper than the most cost effective flow batteries, and 30x cheaper than the lowest estimate for these sodium sulfur batteries.

    It also has a better round-trip efficiency than sodium sulfur batteries.

    And underground hot water storage is much safer as well, as it's deep under the ground, and it's in the desert anyway.

    [one could, of course, place the sodium sulfur batteries in the desert as well, if they really do pose such a serious hazard to people around it. Or even underground for that matter, but that's probably not very practical in the case of these batteries.]
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    • Re: Other options
      asdar on 10/18/2007 at 9:57 AM
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      Perfect shouldn't be the enemy of good in this situation.

      Underground thermal storage isn't even suitable for all areas. If we put the sodium storage in place it'll make an impact right away. It'll pay for itself, and it develops a technology that might have future branchings that will pay off.

      I don't think we gain anything waiting for the next best solution.
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      • Re: Other options
        Siphon on 10/19/2007 at 5:16 AM
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        Well I didn't mean to imply that these batteries shouldn't be investigated, just that there are likely to be more cost-effective storage solutions available.

        The problem is that if they're too expensive, they are going to be niche.

        There's plenty of suitable rock structures in the southwest though. This shouldn't be a major problem for underground thermal storage.
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        • Re: Thermal Storage ......
          DJTal on 10/19/2007 at 8:38 AM
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          Heat stored underground can't be released quickly enough to cope with fluctuations in the electricity supply , not as quickly as supercapacitors or flywheels which are already being used around the world .
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          • Re: Thermal Storage ......
            Siphon on 10/19/2007 at 2:01 PM
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            That may be true, but it is fast enough to deal with anything ranging from minutes to hours to night/day fluctuations. So only a small amount of dedicated millisecond to second storage devices would be needed in conjunction with thermal storage.

            The point is, we're talking about large amounts of energy storage. It looks like solar thermal excells in this department.
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            • Re: Thermal Storage ......
              bkf11 on 10/20/2007 at 5:57 AM
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              I think some comments here are missing the point of these systems. The batteries are there currently as peak-load buffers to delay the costs of upgrading power transmission infrastructure (lines, transformers) which can be very expensive. A million dollar battery is worthwhile if it can delay a 100 million dollar transmission upgrade by a few years. In order to do so it needs to be in the right place - in the urban or industrial areas where the power is used. That's why batteries work - they are compact, quiet and can clearly put out enough power to avoid a brownout/blackout/overload over short periods.
              A solar thermal storage power station seems to be a great way to create baseload electricity but you can't just drop one into a suburban neighbourhood or onto a cloudy mountaintop beside some wind turbines - it just wouldn't be economical to use it for the purpose of taking out fluctuations in power output. Remember that power stations already vary their output according to demand - nothing new about that.
              Benjamin
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              • Re: Thermal Storage ......
                Siphon on 10/20/2007 at 10:06 AM
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                I think I understand it very well actually: niche, albeit a very useful niche.

                Solar thermal storage allows solar thermal plants to be load-following which is far more useful than baseload (baseload is a limited market; load-following is essentially an unlimited market).

                Are you forgetting that we need to deal with the intermittency of renewable generation? These batteries can sure play a part in this, but my point is, in terms of the amounts of energy stored, solar thermal seems to have an edge. So for the brunt of energy storage, we should be looking into solar thermal rather than batteries for now. Maybe in the future they will miraculously come down in price, until then it's restricted to enhancing the grid.
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  • The Mother of all Generators.........
    DJTal on 10/20/2007 at 1:47 PM
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    Imagine if you will a tidal barrage . Not just any barrage , but a floating barrage which rises up and down on piles driven into the sea floor with the tide , pushing hydraulic fluid through a generator . Underneath the barrage vertical bladed turbines generate power from the flow of of the tide , the blades extending and contracting in length with the rise and fall of the water . Along the seaward facing edge of the barrage is a wave power generator . Vertical bladed wind turbines (as developed by the 'Quietrevolution' wind turbine company) sit on the barrage . Ontop of the array of wind turbines sits a solar power array . Geothermal boreholes are driven into the seabed along the length of the barrage , and in the middle of the barrage sits a floating nuclear power station (as developed by the Russians recently) . At each end of the barrage are fossil/biofuel power plants . It makes sense to stuff as many means of generating power into one place so as to reduce the impact on the environment . Thankyou .
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    • Re: The Mother of all Generators.........
      bkshilo on 10/22/2007 at 6:22 PM
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      "Barrage" - What does that mean in the context of your statement.  Or do you mean "Barge"?
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      • Re: The Mother of all Generators.........
        DJTal on 10/23/2007 at 3:38 AM
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        This is very typical of the sort of nitpicking you expect from people on this website . I guess by 'barrage' i meant an array of tidal flow generators stretched out across a channel ,  connected , floating , but not holding the water back . I certainly didn't mean (((((BARGE))))) !
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        • Re: The Mother of all Generators.........
          franquellim on 10/23/2007 at 1:26 PM
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          I'm no scientist, but I do watch TV. I know that concentrating sources of power generation makes for a big liability from a security standpoint. So, while I agree with you on principle, I think that there is no way something like this will get built in our current political climate.
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        • Re: The Mother of all Generators.........
          bkshilo on 11/30/2007 at 6:40 PM
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          Chill, dude.  I wasn't trying to nitpick, just trying to understand what you were saying.
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  • Energy
    lowilliams on 12/26/2007 at 5:53 PM
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    We are fixing the wrong problem.  The main problem with the grid is fragility.  Additional smaller insults are energy loss in all the up and down conversions and ugly clear cut lines crossing and recrossing the country. We need to eliminate the grid.  

    For a real 21st energy system ALL energy suppliers should immediately use the energy to electrolize water and place the product, hydrogen and oxygen, into a contenent spanning pipelines. The hydrogen will serve all energy users, the oxygen will be used to clean water and other waste.  The pipelines will serve as hugh accumulators smoothing out all the up-and-downs of energy produced by renewables or what ever. 
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    • Re: Energy
      rhapsodyinglue on 12/30/2007 at 6:06 PM
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      I'm sure it would be far cheaper to put all the power lines underground than to build hydrogen pipelines underground.   I don't think most people would want to pay the extra price to do either.  My assumption being based upon the fact that long distance utility lines are almost universally above ground all over the world.
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      • Re: Energy
        Daniel from SA on 01/09/2008 at 9:04 AM
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        Maybe a bit off topic, but the power lines are built above ground for insulation purposes.  In a typical 3-phase grid, one of the phases is ground (using the earth as one conductor), and due to the high voltage used to minimise energy losses in the conductor, it makes sense to use air (= distance in an above ground setting) as insulation against short circuits.  This is also the reason why massive towers are needed to suspend the cables - the voltage determines the minimum distance between the power lines.  If DC is used as source (being cheaper over very long distances), the negative and positive lines are actually carried on two separate lines in order to create enough distance for insulation.  Also, the distance is needed to minimise energy losses through magnetic interaction between the different phases.  Where electricity is supplied underground, it is normally done at lower voltages, shorter distances and using an expensive, complex combination of insulators kept inside sealed piped containing a second, liquid insulating agent.  Therefore, it just do not make economic sense to convert to underground, high tension long distance transportation of electricity, irrespective of the means of generation.  If a cheap, modular system can be developed (like solar), that can generate electricity for local demand, it can be used to replace the grid.  Just take into consideration that currently the huge size of the grid not only serves to distribute electricity from huge plants, but is also used to keep the supply stable - the larger the grid, the smaller the effect of a defect in one part of the power generation system.
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